Hello
I purchased a pair W4-1320SIF bamboo cone full range driver.
http://www.solen.ca/pdf/tangband/w41320sif.pdf
To my ear it sound a bit dark.
I used to listening aluminium (metal) cone drivers like Visaton AL130 etc.
I think I return the drivers to Solen electronic and I purchase the same size Titanium cone driver.
http://www.solen.ca/pdf/tangband/w41337sdf.pdf
I have a question,
If you look the speaker diagram after 10K it goes up some place almost 10db louder.
Can I adjust that so not to get to much high frequency?
I will use it with a 8" woofer until 400Hz.
With the bamboo cone I'm sure I'll need to ad a tweeter. But the sound character dark even in the mid section. Also need some help at high frequency.
Can you please let me know if I can smooth out the frequency over 10K at if I get the Titanium cone driver.
Thank you for any advice. It would be great to get advise ASAP so I can exchange the drivers.
I'm also willing to sell them in case someone interested now.
You save the shipping cost. These driver are brand new they just arrived today afternoon.
Greetings
I purchased a pair W4-1320SIF bamboo cone full range driver.
http://www.solen.ca/pdf/tangband/w41320sif.pdf
To my ear it sound a bit dark.
I used to listening aluminium (metal) cone drivers like Visaton AL130 etc.
I think I return the drivers to Solen electronic and I purchase the same size Titanium cone driver.
http://www.solen.ca/pdf/tangband/w41337sdf.pdf
I have a question,
If you look the speaker diagram after 10K it goes up some place almost 10db louder.
Can I adjust that so not to get to much high frequency?
I will use it with a 8" woofer until 400Hz.
With the bamboo cone I'm sure I'll need to ad a tweeter. But the sound character dark even in the mid section. Also need some help at high frequency.
Can you please let me know if I can smooth out the frequency over 10K at if I get the Titanium cone driver.
Thank you for any advice. It would be great to get advise ASAP so I can exchange the drivers.
I'm also willing to sell them in case someone interested now.
You save the shipping cost. These driver are brand new they just arrived today afternoon.
Greetings
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Hello
Yes I did run 5 hours , the sound get better buts till dark to me.
The last 7 years I listening only metal cone drivers.
I think to exchange the bamboo to titanium cone. Probably that closer to my taste and has more life in it.
I need a bit more highs to. Do not forget my 8" woofer is kevlar a bit soft to. For bass I want to run that up to 400Hz.
I have a feeling these bamboo cone need a tweeter (some help)even if I would get used to it to the sound.
Only problem with the titanium cone over 10KHz it go over 90Db that look like a bit to much.
Now If I return I loose all the shipping cost (both way) plus I have to pay another shipping cost on the titanium to.
I built several speakers but these would be my first full range.
If only I have a tweeter I would know how to cut with a L pod a couple db. But L pod can not used in a full range drive. probably some capacitor between the +/- or inductor???
Greetings Gabor
Yes I did run 5 hours , the sound get better buts till dark to me.
The last 7 years I listening only metal cone drivers.
I think to exchange the bamboo to titanium cone. Probably that closer to my taste and has more life in it.
I need a bit more highs to. Do not forget my 8" woofer is kevlar a bit soft to. For bass I want to run that up to 400Hz.
I have a feeling these bamboo cone need a tweeter (some help)even if I would get used to it to the sound.
Only problem with the titanium cone over 10KHz it go over 90Db that look like a bit to much.
Now If I return I loose all the shipping cost (both way) plus I have to pay another shipping cost on the titanium to.
I built several speakers but these would be my first full range.
If only I have a tweeter I would know how to cut with a L pod a couple db. But L pod can not used in a full range drive. probably some capacitor between the +/- or inductor???
Greetings Gabor
Hello
These is about these two driver
http://www.solen.ca/pdf/tangband/w41320sif.pdf
http://www.solen.ca/pdf/tangband/w41337sdf.pdf
Both 4"full range. I just returned the bamboo cone driver for exchange to the titanium cone.
Because the last 7 years I listen metal cone the bamboo a bit to dark to me. All do it is a great driver for that price.
The titanium probably will be better (give lighter sound) to my taste but it has a nasty hike over 13KHz if you look at the diagram of the driver you can see it.
I must cut back that highs because that will be to loud, some area goes over
100db.
The Solen electronics technician told me on the phone I must use some small inductors parallel with the driver.
He didn't told me what size but I will figure out some how.
I only want a full range speaker supported at the bass with a 8" woofer.
I do not want to use a tweeter to.
Greetings Gabor
These is about these two driver
http://www.solen.ca/pdf/tangband/w41320sif.pdf
http://www.solen.ca/pdf/tangband/w41337sdf.pdf
Both 4"full range. I just returned the bamboo cone driver for exchange to the titanium cone.
Because the last 7 years I listen metal cone the bamboo a bit to dark to me. All do it is a great driver for that price.
The titanium probably will be better (give lighter sound) to my taste but it has a nasty hike over 13KHz if you look at the diagram of the driver you can see it.
I must cut back that highs because that will be to loud, some area goes over
100db.
The Solen electronics technician told me on the phone I must use some small inductors parallel with the driver.
He didn't told me what size but I will figure out some how.
I only want a full range speaker supported at the bass with a 8" woofer.
I do not want to use a tweeter to.
Greetings Gabor
Hello
Thank you
I will see after I ad the 8" woofer crossing point around 400Hz.
I do not want to use tweeter if is possible. Because the darker sound for that reason I returned the bamboo cone. All do not bad at all.
I hope the titanium will be a bit brighter.
May be the top will be OK with the extra bass driver.
Unfortunately I got used to it to the metal cone drivers now hard to listen other type.
Again the 4" Tang band bamboo very nice driver and very smooth.
I hope the titanium will be at least as good but a bit brighter sound (not to bright just a bit).
Also the titanium 1db louder than the bamboo after the data.
These rated about 25W continuous, if I cut the bass of at 400Hz that must increase the power capability of these driver and hope reduce further the distortion.
Usually the human hearing limited around 16-17KHz. So not much will be there at the top.
In case if bother me I'll try to use some inductor..
Greetings Gabor
Thank you
I will see after I ad the 8" woofer crossing point around 400Hz.
I do not want to use tweeter if is possible. Because the darker sound for that reason I returned the bamboo cone. All do not bad at all.
I hope the titanium will be a bit brighter.
May be the top will be OK with the extra bass driver.
Unfortunately I got used to it to the metal cone drivers now hard to listen other type.
Again the 4" Tang band bamboo very nice driver and very smooth.
I hope the titanium will be at least as good but a bit brighter sound (not to bright just a bit).
Also the titanium 1db louder than the bamboo after the data.
These rated about 25W continuous, if I cut the bass of at 400Hz that must increase the power capability of these driver and hope reduce further the distortion.
Usually the human hearing limited around 16-17KHz. So not much will be there at the top.
In case if bother me I'll try to use some inductor..
Greetings Gabor
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Yes that is what I heard from the bamboo cone. It need a tweeter. Otherwise it is to dark..
I would end up a 3 way speaker instead a full range.
How I stated I want to support with a 8" woofer to get enough bass out of it. Actually I plan to use a XO at 400Hz. To take that bass of from the TB 4" driver. I had that woofer brand new from Monacor the SPH 200 KE. Is a kevlar driver, wel built ag good quality, it is possible to use as a midwoofer but I don't like the soft mids. That is why I picked the TB. As a woofer sound great from 50L F3 under 30Hz. Next to that I want a driver which I do not have to use tweeter. Probably the titanium will sound better, brighter. Now I returned the bamboo for exchange to the same size titanium cone.
Let see what I get when it arrive.
Greetings
Yes that is what I heard from the bamboo cone. It need a tweeter. Otherwise it is to dark..
I would end up a 3 way speaker instead a full range.
How I stated I want to support with a 8" woofer to get enough bass out of it. Actually I plan to use a XO at 400Hz. To take that bass of from the TB 4" driver. I had that woofer brand new from Monacor the SPH 200 KE. Is a kevlar driver, wel built ag good quality, it is possible to use as a midwoofer but I don't like the soft mids. That is why I picked the TB. As a woofer sound great from 50L F3 under 30Hz. Next to that I want a driver which I do not have to use tweeter. Probably the titanium will sound better, brighter. Now I returned the bamboo for exchange to the same size titanium cone.
Let see what I get when it arrive.
Greetings
Hello
If I have to use a tweeter that no longer full range.
I will see if the titanium cone give enough highs.
If not I must use some tweeter. But the XO point will be higher than in the usual 3 way system.
Of course I want to get out the best if I build something, if it will be a need for a tweeter so be it.
What can I do. That Monacor 8" is OK for a two way system but I can listen the soft mids..
SPH-200KE - Monacor top HiFi bass-mid range speaker 120Wmax 8 Ohm - Europe Audio
Haut-Parleur Hi-Fi Monacor SPH-200KE
That is a problem if I listen just metal cone driver (Visaton AL130) after since to me almost impossible to use softer sound drivers.
Greetings Gabor
If I have to use a tweeter that no longer full range.
I will see if the titanium cone give enough highs.
If not I must use some tweeter. But the XO point will be higher than in the usual 3 way system.
Of course I want to get out the best if I build something, if it will be a need for a tweeter so be it.
What can I do. That Monacor 8" is OK for a two way system but I can listen the soft mids..
SPH-200KE - Monacor top HiFi bass-mid range speaker 120Wmax 8 Ohm - Europe Audio
Haut-Parleur Hi-Fi Monacor SPH-200KE
That is a problem if I listen just metal cone driver (Visaton AL130) after since to me almost impossible to use softer sound drivers
.Greetings Gabor
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