PAWO & FE127eN

[tli]

From the P10 site, the PAWO speaker apparently only produces acceptable results with the FE127(eN) driver. Also per P10, the FE127 drivers are discontinued. Sounds like a cabinet conundrum (or am I missing something??).

If the above two facts are true, does another driver work well for this cabinet? It is a terrific cabinet design (wide front, shallow front-to-back) for what I'm after. If the answer is 'no', any other suggestions that are similar in configuration?

Thx!

[zman01]

tli,

P10 has a pair of treated FE127eN on auction - check it out on the P10 section of the forums. Proceeds from the auction will go to diyAudio.

Maybe you can have your PAWO and listen to it too!

[planet10]

PAWO was never that hot a design. Mileva was designed to have the same visual format, and give better performance. In theory the new FF125wk should work fine ... i've yet to have time to put FF125 into the Mileva we have here.

dave

[chrisb]

Originally Posted by tli

From the P10 site, the PAWO speaker apparently only produces acceptable results with the FE127(eN) driver. Also per P10, the FE127 drivers are discontinued. Sounds like a cabinet conundrum (or am I missing something??).

If the above two facts are true, does another driver work well for this cabinet? It is a terrific cabinet design (wide front, shallow front-to-back) for what I'm after. If the answer is 'no', any other suggestions that are similar in configuration?

Thx!

PAWO was designed by Tom Zurkowski, and we experimented with only 2 of the full-range drivers that were on our playlist at the time ( i.e. CSS FR125, and the FE127E). Both drivers exhibited some issues with congestion most detectable in the vocal range that we attributed to the shallow depth, and which was mitigated on a rebuild in which the FE127 was mounted on a solid wood surface mounted supra-baffle.




But to answer two separate questions -
1) of current drivers that would probably work in this enclosure, the FF125WK would be my first suggestion.
2) there are other wide / shallow enclosures that are probably simpler to build, and deliver equivalent or superior performance - Mileva for example






edit; looks like Dave beat me to it

[planet10]

Originally Posted by chrisb

PAWO was designed by Tom Zurkowski, and we experimented with only 2 of the full-range drivers that were on our playlist at the time ( i.e. CSS FR125, and the FE127E).

That was the start & the end, but i did try quite a few in-between.

dave

[chrisb]

Originally Posted by planet10

That was the start & the end, but i did try quite a few in-between.

dave

I guess I only remember hearing the two

[planet10]

Yes, i did not subject you to the fallures -- except the 1st, which set us on the journey.

dave

[tli]

Originally Posted by planet10

PAWO was never that hot a design. Mileva was designed to have the same visual format, and give better performance. In theory the new FF125wk should work fine ... i've yet to have time to put FF125 into the Mileva we have here.

dave

Thx Dave.....but I seem to be doing this the hard way. The mentioned Milevas apparently don't have a public/free set of plans. Per search results performed earlier today for quite a bit, it seems that you only distribute plans when requested so.....can I please have a copy?

Second favor (equally important), but would some arm-twisting get you to throw those drivers mentioned in the Mileva cabs you have laying around? My goal is to find a reputable and well-liked driver/cab combo that will run with a "low powered" amp that I can start making (complementing with a sub is fine by me). The wide-front/shallow-depth design here works great for my room so am hoping this will be a project to pursue.

I did stumble across a separate thread this morning where you mentioned you were going to look in to a 4" MA driver. Did you ever pursue that and if so, how'd it turn out?

Thx again (I owe you a beer).

--t

[tli]

BTW - zman and chrisb, thx also for your input here. While I'm happy supporting DIY if that's the route that gets me to a DIY speaker/amp combo, the PAWOs don't sound appetizing to pursue per Dave's input above.

Thank you both for chiming in.....I need and appreciate the help!

[planet10]

Originally Posted by tli

Thx Dave.....but I seem to be doing this the hard way. The mentioned Milevas apparently don't have a public/free set of plans. Per search results performed earlier today for quite a bit, it seems that you only distribute plans when requested so.....can I please have a copy?

Yes you can, just email me. There are some plans we wanted to have a bit of a record for.

Second favor (equally important), but would some arm-twisting get you to throw those drivers mentioned in the Mileva cabs you have laying around?

Would get it closer to the top of the queue. THings have always been hectic around here, recently having to take on some elder care has mae things even more so. Triage is the order of the day.

I did stumble across a separate thread this morning where you mentioned you were going to look in to a 4" MA driver. Did you ever pursue that and if so, how'd it turn out?

It is stillmy intention, but is on hold until Scottmoose re-surfaces.

(I owe you a beer)

I may have to take that out in alternate currency

Spare beers around here usually last until someone pinches it at the next diyFEST (ie some diyFEST beers have been from the previous years).

dave