Binding posts in the EU?

Squeak · 23rd October 2011, 10:21 AM

It's been a long time since there have been a thread about this.
Good binding posts of the kind that go into separate drilled holes and is tightened with a nut. Not above €6 per pair, as that is just stupid for a connector.
Preferably for both banana and raw wire/spades.
Feel free to discuss US too, but there seem to be no shortage of good binding posts over there.

bear · 23rd October 2011, 12:48 PM

My understanding is that standard BPs used in a commercial product are illegal in the EU. Seems like they want to "protect" you, the citizens, from the DANGERS of real binding posts and the possibility of making contact with anything electrical.

So the BPs have to have some sort of cover it seems, one that can not be removed or defeated...

They also want to mandate citizens using surgical gloves to wipe their rear ends after pooping <--- just an opinion, not true! (or is it?)

that's what I am told. I live in the USA and have no first hand knowledge or information.

_-_-bear

Squeak · 23rd October 2011, 03:22 PM

Well there are a few binding posts on Amazon.co.uk, mostly by Monacor but they are all stupidly expensive or are only long enough for ridiculously thin cabinets.
I need something that can go through a 19mm side.

About the surgical gloves... well, Germans might want to wear them when using the stool examination trays in loos not uncommon in that country. X-P

audiomik · 23rd October 2011, 03:47 PM

Try RS or Farnell

Buy Connector Electronic Test Equipment & Test Leads parts | RS Online

Binding Posts | Farnell United Kingdom

Low Voltage Directive applies for their use

hope this assists
Mik

marce · 25th October 2011, 11:51 AM

Its the bannana plug (4mm plug) that our wonderful Eurocrats dont like, they are frightend you may stick it in a mains plug by mistake...
Where that hum from!!!

Conrad Hoffman · 25th October 2011, 12:17 PM

If a place makes enough goofy and expensive rules, eventually it isn't worth dealing with them. IMO, many makers of low volume specialty items can't justify the expense of CE testing, keeping track of the changes in directives and the end of product life disposal requirements. If they do it, guess who pays.

bear · 25th October 2011, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marce

Its the bannana plug (4mm plug) that our wonderful Eurocrats dont like, they are frightend you may stick it in a mains plug by mistake...
Where that hum from!!!

If they fear the male part, then why outlaw the female?

Or perhaps they permit the male part for test equipment? Nah, that makes no sense, unless they think that a consumer would plug their speaker cables into the wall?

WAIT A SECOND! Maybe the problem is on the AC end of things!! I say MANDATE A CHANGE TO ALL AC OUTLETS IN THE EuroZone!!

_-_-bear

Kjeldsen · 25th October 2011, 01:58 PM

Here is some
Kabler, stik, ledning og adaptere - Stik - Banan - Bøsninger

pinkmouse · 25th October 2011, 02:06 PM

Why bother with bananas/ binding posts, that's so last century. Speakon is the way to go.

Kjeldsen · 25th October 2011, 02:09 PM

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23rd October 2011, 10:21 AM	#1
Squeak diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2007	Binding posts in the EU? It's been a long time since there have been a thread about this. Good binding posts of the kind that go into separate drilled holes and is tightened with a nut. Not above €6 per pair, as that is just stupid for a connector. Preferably for both banana and raw wire/spades. Feel free to discuss US too, but there seem to be no shortage of good binding posts over there.

23rd October 2011, 12:48 PM	#2
bear expert in tautology diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York State USA	My understanding is that standard BPs used in a commercial product are illegal in the EU. Seems like they want to "protect" you, the citizens, from the DANGERS of real binding posts and the possibility of making contact with anything electrical. So the BPs have to have some sort of cover it seems, one that can not be removed or defeated... They also want to mandate citizens using surgical gloves to wipe their rear ends after pooping <--- just an opinion, not true! (or is it?) that's what I am told. I live in the USA and have no first hand knowledge or information. _-_-bear __________________ _-_-bear http://www.bearlabs.com [...2SJ74 Toshiba bogus asian parts - beware! ] -- Btw, I don't actually know anything, FYI --

25th October 2011, 12:17 PM	#6
Conrad Hoffman diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canandaigua, NY USA	If a place makes enough goofy and expensive rules, eventually it isn't worth dealing with them. IMO, many makers of low volume specialty items can't justify the expense of CE testing, keeping track of the changes in directives and the end of product life disposal requirements. If they do it, guess who pays. __________________ I used to be an audiophool like you but then I took an arrow to the knee.

25th October 2011, 02:06 PM	#9
pinkmouse diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chatham, England	Why bother with bananas/ binding posts, that's so last century. Speakon is the way to go. __________________ Al I conceive of nothing, in religion, science or philosophy, that is more than the proper thing to wear, for a while. Charles Fort

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23rd October 2011, 03:22 PM	#3
Squeak diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2007	Well there are a few binding posts on Amazon.co.uk, mostly by Monacor but they are all stupidly expensive or are only long enough for ridiculously thin cabinets. I need something that can go through a 19mm side. About the surgical gloves... well, Germans might want to wear them when using the stool examination trays in loos not uncommon in that country. X-P

23rd October 2011, 03:47 PM	#4
audiomik diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bath, UK	Try RS or Farnell Buy Connector Electronic Test Equipment & Test Leads parts \| RS Online Binding Posts \| Farnell United Kingdom Low Voltage Directive applies for their use hope this assists Mik

25th October 2011, 11:51 AM	#5
marce diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Blackburn, Lancs	Its the bannana plug (4mm plug) that our wonderful Eurocrats dont like, they are frightend you may stick it in a mains plug by mistake... Where that hum from!!!

25th October 2011, 01:58 PM	#8
Kjeldsen diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Randers, Denmark	Here is some Kabler, stik, ledning og adaptere - Stik - Banan - Bøsninger

25th October 2011, 02:09 PM	#10
Kjeldsen diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Randers, Denmark	and more Loudspeaker Accessories: Connectors, Terminals

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