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Old 6th May 2011, 05:21 PM   #1
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Default W5s are finally burning in, yay!!

I just received my roll of solid core cat5, so I took out a few twisted pairs and got my W5-1611s playing in their packing boxes. I'm ashamed to admit it but I'm already quite impressed. I can't imagine how good they'll sound once they're in their horn enclosures. While bass guitar is still about 20 feet behind the band, all the comments people have made about these drivers sounding "fun" and having eerily realistic voice production are quite obviously true. I was expecting that I would apply a contour filter to the rising top octave but now I doubt if that will be necessary; so long as the horn compensates sufficiently for BSC then there will be no need for passive components. Off-axis dispersion also strikes me as being quite good, or certainly better than I expected. While I'm very sure that you can do better in the fullrange world, I think the W5s must represent a great choice in terms of sound and usability thanks to their size, parameters, and price. It's worth pointing out that they're on sale at PE right now for $45 a pop too.

If you'll all excuse me, I think I'll go try to find a pair of crap speakers and commandeer their boxes for the W5s until the horns are finished. No wood shop up here, got to rely on the good will of family.
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Old 6th May 2011, 11:16 PM   #2
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Old 7th May 2011, 07:43 AM   #3
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Thanks for posting your preliminary findings on the W5. Keep us posted. You too, "dynablasters."
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Old 7th May 2011, 04:59 PM   #4
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Here's a little pic of how I have them set up on top of my now-retired vintage speakers. I know, I know, my setup in general is sub-par but space is at a premium. I'm not considering this break-in since I bought these drivers used, but I am trying to avoid too much excursion. The box-they-were-shipped-in enclosures are so small they're probably suppressing most of the low frequencies and contributing a massive mid-bass hump that's compensating somewhat for BSC. Sub is filling in from 125hz down.

Anyway, I must be stupid for how good I think these sound right now. I've been listening to a lot of jazz vocals and music such as Yo-Yo Ma's Silk Road ensemble. Listening to the track Avez-e Dashti, one of my all-time favorites, I just love listening to the extended decay of each string. Female vocals are thrilling. Just got to wait for those cabinets...
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Old 7th May 2011, 05:00 PM   #5
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FYI, scottmoose did a quick sim posted in a thread of mine, and suggested I put my w5's in this cab using only one driver per. http://homepage.mac.com/tlinespeaker...DBR-290610.pdf
sim- http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/attac...-single-tb.gif

To offer some more feedback on the general sound of the w5's. I've given them a few hours work in open air. I thought the opposite of off-axis dispersion, and looking at the cone profile vs size I can see why. I don't think they'll require a tweeter, but i'm super sensitive to "hot" highs. Vocals sound a bit more "breathey" (that a word?), I suspect due to the poly cone......or maybe I'm just used to the fostex vocal range. I can't comment as to bass, but they seem to have potential for surprising bass in the right cab. With all that said, opinions beings subjective of course, I agree......the w5's are a real bargain used within their limitations (> 55-60hz), with sub(s) taking over from there.
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Old 7th May 2011, 07:55 PM   #6
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Thanks Stevie. I was always wondering how the W5 would sim in one of the BVRs, but after a few pms with henkjan I decided to try the conic horn. Apparently that will reach 50hz f3, but I wish I could see a sim to know how the horn is acting. 50hz seems easily attainable in a regular BR or DCR, so another fun idea would be to make a 1.5 way with a sensitivity of 93db.
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I've had perverted thoughts of putting a W5-1611SA in a Pluto... I haven't actually done anything about it yet. Too many projects not enough time.

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I've had perverted thoughts of putting a W5-1611SA in a Pluto... I haven't actually done anything about it yet. Too many projects not enough time.

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Scale it up and have a 18" bass driver per side?
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>>> Anyway, I must be stupid for how good I think these sound right now.

Seems this driver has lots of potential... i may have to buy me a pair. Probably lots of boxes will work with them... i might do a BIB if it sims small enough.
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Old 8th May 2011, 01:25 AM   #10
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Take the plunge Zilla, I know you've been interested in these drivers for a long time!

One other implementation I would love to try with these drivers is an MJK-style open baffle. Maybe I'll even try an open baffle with sub augmentation while I'm waiting for cabinets, just to get an idea of what OB sound is all about.
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