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Old 6th April 2011, 12:29 PM   #1
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Default phy drivers still availiable ?

They are not availiable on madisound.
Tonian Acoustics and Ocellia use them now.

Anyone know who sings and what song at the end of the phy interview/video ?
It's at the 7 minute mark.
YouTube - PHY-HP famous speakerunits made by Bernard Salabert of France.


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Old 6th April 2011, 08:00 PM   #2
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They are not availiable on madisound.
Tonian Acoustics and Ocellia use them now.

Anyone know who sings and what song at the end of the phy interview/video ?
It's at the 7 minute mark.
YouTube - PHY-HP famous speakerunits made by Bernard Salabert of France.


Sincerely,
Norman


PHY-HP (Haut parleurs) - Distributors

oh boy, a Quebecois distributing a French product line - enough said?

FWIW, I heard a couple of PHY systems several years back at a local dealer - (well, I actually built some enclosures for the 8" and the silly big OB panels for the 12" coax) , and could certainly think of several other speaker systems on demo in the same price range that I'd rather live with, but none of which I could afford.
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Old 7th April 2011, 02:28 AM   #4
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chrisB, thanks, could you give a synopsis of them ?
Or at least what you liked better ?

thanks ttan98, i didn't see them there.

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Also FWIW, I have used the 8" with alnico and silver voice coil in OB.
Rolls off very cleanly at 8kHz.
Can't imagine how anyone could use them full range. I used a tweeter.
Possibly the least detailed speaker I have ever used or heard.

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Old 7th April 2011, 04:45 AM   #6
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I notice tonian labs uses a ribbon crossed in high.

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Old 7th April 2011, 08:18 AM   #7
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chrisB, thanks, could you give a synopsis of them ?
Or at least what you liked better ?

thanks ttan98, i didn't see them there.

Norman

well, I think D OB G pretty much nailed it on the head as far as the 8" full range is concerned

as for the 12" co-ax in large OB panels, I tried hard to like them, but while more detailed and extended at both ends than the 8s, they still had significant issues for me - imaging coherency / soundstage dimensionality varied with frequency and significantly with listening position

Why a DIYed in the wool FR guy would even be listening to such speaker systems in what passes for a high-end retail shop is certainly questionable, but there were many other systems available at the same time that weren't hurtful (except of course for the pricing). Of those, the 2 or 3 that I found most musically engaging, warts and all, were AudioNote E, B&W N802 & 803, and while heard at a much later time by far my favorite the Sonus Faber Elipsa. None of them were particularly taxing to listen to, but neither was I depressed when I got home and fired up my little 4" Fostex full-rangers and 3 watt tube amps.
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Old 7th April 2011, 10:33 AM   #8
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thanks chris. Boy, that's disapointing, but thanks for the heads up.
You too D OB G.

I can't imagine either speaker without the super-tweet.

I've been thinking that crossing 5khz and above, the slope (or time alignment) isn't too important, but that's for another thread.

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Hi chrisb

"oh boy, a Quebecois distributing a French product line - enough said?"

What do you mean by that?

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PHY-HP (Haut parleurs) - Distributors

oh boy, a Quebecois distributing a French product line - enough said?

FWIW, I heard a couple of PHY systems several years back at a local dealer - (well, I actually built some enclosures for the 8" and the silly big OB panels for the 12" coax) , and could certainly think of several other speaker systems on demo in the same price range that I'd rather live with, but none of which I could afford.
Phy km30 anyway which is what I have owned for 10 years are very difficult to dial in baffle and amp wise but when you do they will go from slow sloppy speakers to supa fast holographic bass slamming monsters. They don't like being driven out of there loading. What I am trying to say is they don't do well in small baffle and with amps 20 to 20 k amps. I learned this by trying a Siemens 2000 projector amps on mine and being gob smacked by there performance. The Siemens amps are built for kl405 speakers in small baffles. They have trans with limited inductance to limit lower frequency's and eq to correct the roll off. They also don't use global feedback they use shunt feedback. el84 SE ef86 driver

I suspect it's a issue with full range open baffle that needs more investigating. But it's especially important with phy as there very delicate and loose suspension optimized for open baffle. You have to feed them signal in there intended bandwidth no lower I have had issues with the tweeters though recently. I hope there still in business.
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