Full Range driver - 5.1 setup possible?

[penguinpoo]

Hi All,

So, I've been thinking and searching hard on a new speaker setup ... I was thinking of building a surround system with Zigmahornets + FE103's ... plus a sub from KEF.

I've been internet hunting and not found a thing like this... But I thought it may work - any ideas?

As for a reciever I was thinking of getting a NAD (local shop here sells end of line NAD products near 1/3 of original price)...

O yeah - why - because I have some DVD-A discs (I got a SACD / DVD-A player from the said NAD shop - €99 reduced from €399 - very nice)

TWEETERS - nearlly fogot -is it worth (possible) adding tweeters to this concept (in my mind I was thinking tweeters in the front L+R Ziggies)

Any ways - what you think guys (and gals)?

[Cal Weldon]

Nothing wrong with the idea but I am wondering why you might wish to have such a large cabinet for the 103's if you are planning to use an auxiliary woofer. Those cabinets are intended to squeeze as much bass as you can from a small driver with the intent, I must assume, to eliminate the need for the extra woofer. The tweeter idea is purely subjective. Try them without first.

[penguinpoo]

Originally Posted by Cal Weldon

Nothing wrong with the idea but I am wondering why you might wish to have such a large cabinet for the 103's if you are planning to use an auxiliary woofer. Those cabinets are intended to squeeze as much bass as you can from a small driver with the intent, I must assume, to eliminate the need for the extra woofer. The tweeter idea is purely subjective. Try them without first.

Hm, thats true - the reason I came up with this was:

1. At the moment I dont have any cabinet, and I would like to build my own, so I may aswell build the ziggy as its easy.

2. Its convientently floor standing - no mounting etc... and holds the speakerz at just above ear height

3. They look nice

4. I was guessing, if each component in the setup was at its best, the end result would be pretty good (my logic: If 2 ziggies are good, then with 4 or 5 I would be surrounded by good)

I guess that sub would just be used for the rumbling earth shattering bass during films (As musically I quite like the ziggys on their own - they dont need a sub) - this was jsut to 'feel' the base during explosive films.

Thanks!

[hm]

Originally Posted by Cal Weldon

Nothing wrong with the idea but I am wondering why you might wish to have such a large cabinet for the 103's .

i agree with Cal,
i would prefer a small bookshelf horn like my FLUTE down to 100 Hz,
in your case the sub has a hard work to get the adequate SPL,
better take two.

[penguinpoo]

Originally Posted by hm

i agree with Cal,
i would prefer a small bookshelf horn like my FLUTE down to 100 Hz,
in your case the sub has a hard work to get the adequate SPL,
better take two.

Interesting... whats SPL?

So the flute is designed to reproduce down to 100Hz? After that I am assuming the sub will pick up?

At the same time I'm also very new to all this!

Thanks,
Richard

[chrisb]

If by NAD components you mean a surround AV amp/receiver you'll likely have more than enough power on tap that unless room is very large, high sensitivity needn't be a priority.

(SPL= Sound Pressure Levels / "loudness" )

Do you already have the FE103s on hand? If not, the Mark Audio drivers are definitely work considering.

For a smaller budget, consider the CHR or CHP70 in Pensil enclosure for L&R mains, small (5.5 litre) sealed center, and Alpair6 M or P for surrounds. For a bit more ambitious project, the Alpair 7 for the front row are very nice (center will need to be a bit larger)

From the point of view of placement, Ziggies might not be the best idea for surrounds - something small enough to easily be mounted in the geometrically right locations with wall brackets sealed makes more sense.

[planet10]

Originally Posted by Cal Weldon

Those cabinets are intended to squeeze as much bass as you can from a small driver with the intent, I must assume, to eliminate the need for the extra woofer.

Except, because it wasn't really "designed" it doesn't get much, if any, more bass than, say, something like the Solo 103.

The concept of FR for HT is a fine one. Keep your amp in mind when you choose drivers.

dave

[hm]

Hello,
further info for the Flute look here,
with measurements, german feedback, plan:
Flute
may be goo.. translate helps

[penguinpoo]

Originally Posted by planet10

Except, because it wasn't really "designed" it doesn't get much, if any, more bass than, say, something like the Solo 103.

The concept of FR for HT is a fine one. Keep your amp in mind when you choose drivers.

dave

Well the amp will most likely be a NAD av/amp reciever (something like a T755 or what ever end of line NAD they have at the time, see: NAD Electronics :: T 755 A/V Surround Sound Receiver )

Asides from that whats FR and HT?

I like the look of the FLUTE that was mentioned - but appears it requires a lot of specific woodwork with specific angles (at the moment I dont have a workshop, so I'll have to give my local wood selling company a series of pieces I need, so complicated angles etc... are definatly out...) :-(

[penguinpoo]

Ahhh... FR = Full Range... whats HT (I just got it now!)