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Old 22nd February 2011, 08:30 PM   #11
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Happy birthday (wow, lots of ppl who is getting older today!)

Well, i'm 16 (16 and one month to be exact) and i built my Mar-Kel70 last summer when i was 15 and i really really like them. You can't really describe the bass with words, you have to hear it to believe what these small drivers can do. Midrange is really good aswell and the highs are nothing to complain about. In a larger cabinet i think one pair of EL70 should do well

By the way, i power my speakers with a Harman Kardon HK3490 stereo-amplifier. Might sell it next week though.

all of us celebrate the end of "a year" every day, but trust me though when I say that it feels like more than a day at a time at the end of 6 decades


by the way, you've fit in nicely to this band of crazy audio-nauts

yup - those little EL70s are quite the sleeper in the MarKels, but if you really want to be gob-smacked at their low frequency performance, you gotta try a horn like the Maeshowe,

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or perhaps they'd work in an ML-Voigt like the Beltane.

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Old 22nd February 2011, 08:41 PM   #12
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ra7... did you use the traditional dims for your Voigt Pipe and then fold it?

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haha yes dave i mean a tapered line, rather than expanding line; and not a 'reverse taper' as i wrote.... lol well spotted dave
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all of us celebrate the end of "a year" every day, but trust me though when I say that it feels like more than a day at a time at the end of 6 decades


by the way, you've fit in nicely to this band of crazy audio-nauts

yup - those little EL70s are quite the sleeper in the MarKels, but if you really want to be gob-smacked at their low frequency performance, you gotta try a horn like the Maeshowe,

Click the image to open in full size.


or perhaps they'd work in an ML-Voigt like the Beltane.

Click the image to open in full size.
Yes, i can imagine that they could deliver really really good bass in a much larger enclosure.
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Old 23rd February 2011, 05:37 PM   #15
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I'm thinking that anywhere under $100 per driver is acceptable.I'll have subs paired with these though, so no bass isn't really an issue. I don't really have a driver in mind actually, but the EL70 seems popular here. Ill look it up when I get home
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Your budget is good for 2 pair of EL70 (or one tricked out pair), you could consider a bipole met or voigt, and you could move the XO point down to 40-70 Hz.

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Old 23rd February 2011, 05:59 PM   #17
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It might be a goofy question, but putting just a single 4-7/8" full range (the el70) in a full-size voigt cabinet which was designed for an eight inch full range seems... A little small. Is this so?
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Hi Russell, here is a 'rough' proportion to look at.

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The 127e are 4.5" drivers. They are in a Straight Pipe that's smaller than the Voigt Pipe.

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I took the drivers out and will replace them with something larger one day. The sound was very good probably because the cabinets are forgiving. If i built the traditional Voigt Pipes i'd use 8" drivers... The Straight Pipes may end up with my older Fostex 168s (6.5") eventually.
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Zilla,

Yes, it was kind of a traditional vp, but folded. The design was from an old elecktor article that my dad passed on to me. Only later I discovered the BiB website

It is the same thing tho.
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It might be a goofy question, but putting just a single 4-7/8" full range (the el70) in a full-size voigt cabinet which was designed for an eight inch full range seems... A little small. Is this so?
You should put it into an ML-voigt designed for the driver. EL70 is a 4" (with a wide bezel)

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