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Old 29th January 2011, 03:37 PM   #1
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Default Pioneer B20 obsolete?

Can't remember the complete part number B20 something 8" full range with whizzer.

Can't find these anymore -- was it discontinued?
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Old 29th January 2011, 03:40 PM   #2
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From what I've heard, they where discontinued but PE was suppose to have a stock of them left.
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Old 29th January 2011, 04:40 PM   #3
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Not obselete, but discontinued, and sold out. Only ones are in people's closets.

B20 missing from PE catalog

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Old 29th January 2011, 07:16 PM   #4
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obsolete, discontinued -- same thing in the world of parts procurement.

darn shame, wonder why? thought it was a very popular driver.
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Old 29th January 2011, 07:28 PM   #5
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No word on that AFAIK. Could be any of a dozen reasons. Either way, it's gone. The notional replacement is getting mixed comments so far, although it's early days. However, it seems that whatever other qualities it may possess, it is tonally different to the defunct B20.

Whatever the reason, it's a pity.
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I could be wrong, but I've wondered if many of the drivers we use for DIY projects have/had been used in commercial designs. It seems unlikely that these companies would put a driver into production solely for the DIY community due to relatively small sales expectations. Now that the boom in home theatre and consumer electronics is over, we may see many drivers going out of production.
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Now that the boom in home theatre and consumer electronics is over, we may see many drivers going out of production.
Woa... I missed that memo. I don't think the home theater boom as hardly gotten going yet.
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The B20 has been around for donkey's years in one form or another; one of those products you think will always be around. Probably Pioneer making economies in production line, chopping those items which have lower margins.
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Woa... I missed that memo. I don't think the home theater boom as hardly gotten going yet.
Well up there on the frozen tundra you've just recently got electricity, right?

Seriously though, I recently saw an ad in the Duluth area for cable DISCONNECTORS!!! I do wonder about this DIY market and it's suppliers. The CSS EL70's I recently used are shielded drivers and that makes me wonder if they had an initial commercial use in home theater or computer speakers. Be interesting to know just how many pairs of these raw drivers have been sold to individuals. I would think you would have to expect sales in the thousands to make a production run worth while on a $50 driver. I remain worried that the global economic situation will have an adverse effect on parts availibility in ours and other hobbies.
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From an economic standpoint everything is suffering but interest in home theater is still in it's infancy I think. Looks like we're neighbors.
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