B20 missing from PE catalog

Godzilla · 13th December 2010, 12:56 AM

I got the latest parts express catalog the other day (along with my very cool little Dayton T-amp... the extruded aluminum one with gold plated banana plugs) and leafed thru it only to find the Pioneer B20 was no longer there... only the new GRS 'copy' of it. I do see the B20 on sale for $19 but wonder if this will eventually become a discontinued item or pe will just stop carrying it? Many of the other Pioneer drivers were no longer in the catalog either. I plan on buying the GRS (which is out of stock at the moment) and hope it will perform as well (or better!) than the more expensive B20 but will be disappointed if the B20 is no longer available. Mine are nearly 10 years old and in perfect condition but i always thought they would be available forever to DIYers. Anyone have any additional info?

Zilla

Darkstar52 · 13th December 2010, 02:51 AM

I read some time ago that production of the b20 has been discontinued. The stock PE has were a buy out, once the're gone that's it. They may be low on stock, and no point in listing them in the new catalog? Sad to see them go I love mine.

BHTX · 13th December 2010, 04:06 PM

Ugh, what a disappointment! I noticed a while back that the 4" Pioneer fullranger disappeared too.
Ditto on the interest in the GRS 8FR (after all, I think you found this driver through a thread I started for it not long ago). So, be sure to let me know how it turns out after you get them!

Tom V · 13th December 2010, 04:25 PM

PE still has them. I just ordered two over the web.

-Tom-

norman bates · 13th December 2010, 08:25 PM

the b20's have been discontinued.
They had a few hundred a month ago.
I called then.

Norman

Vix · 13th December 2010, 08:39 PM

I guess it's discontinued because somebody realized they are too good for the money. So, there will be two new models in the future. Model 1 will be even cheaper, but rubbish sounding, and another "premium" model will sonically be just a bit better than a B20, but will be 10x more expensive...

I hope I'm wrong...

Godzilla · 13th December 2010, 09:24 PM

The B20 is discontinued. I called PE and they have 'just over 20 left'... get them while you can!

I am using the pair i have for a project going into my older son's room.

I will order the GRS 'copy' and see how it sounds. I have a pair of GRS drivers that look good but never hooked them up. I hope they represent good value since they are pretty inexpensive. Here's hoping!

jc56043 · 14th December 2010, 12:09 AM

Thanks to you guys I have just ordered a pair before they are all gone. Poor man's Fostex no more. Anyone got any suggestions for an alternative?

LCole · 14th December 2010, 02:52 PM

mcm electronics seems to have a treasure trove of 'el-cheapos' that, on paper, seem to be worth playing around with. I have not tried anything over 6.5" (woofers), but if you are looking for dollar value, they may be a good place to start.

LCole · 14th December 2010, 02:54 PM

I forgot to mention- they used to carry both the a11 and the b20's but discontinued these about 6 months ago.

13th December 2010, 12:56 AM	#1
Godzilla diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New York	B20 missing from PE catalog I got the latest parts express catalog the other day (along with my very cool little Dayton T-amp... the extruded aluminum one with gold plated banana plugs) and leafed thru it only to find the Pioneer B20 was no longer there... only the new GRS 'copy' of it. I do see the B20 on sale for $19 but wonder if this will eventually become a discontinued item or pe will just stop carrying it? Many of the other Pioneer drivers were no longer in the catalog either. I plan on buying the GRS (which is out of stock at the moment) and hope it will perform as well (or better!) than the more expensive B20 but will be disappointed if the B20 is no longer available. Mine are nearly 10 years old and in perfect condition but i always thought they would be available forever to DIYers. Anyone have any additional info? Zilla __________________ www.zillaaudio.com/bib/bib.asp www.ZillaAudio.com

13th December 2010, 09:24 PM	#7
Godzilla diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New York	The B20 is discontinued. I called PE and they have 'just over 20 left'... get them while you can! I am using the pair i have for a project going into my older son's room. I will order the GRS 'copy' and see how it sounds. I have a pair of GRS drivers that look good but never hooked them up. I hope they represent good value since they are pretty inexpensive. Here's hoping! __________________ www.zillaaudio.com/bib/bib.asp www.ZillaAudio.com

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13th December 2010, 02:51 AM	#2
Darkstar52 diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The Border of PA&NJ Delaware Water Gap USA	I read some time ago that production of the b20 has been discontinued. The stock PE has were a buy out, once the're gone that's it. They may be low on stock, and no point in listing them in the new catalog? Sad to see them go I love mine.

13th December 2010, 04:06 PM	#3
BHTX diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2006	Ugh, what a disappointment! I noticed a while back that the 4" Pioneer fullranger disappeared too. Ditto on the interest in the GRS 8FR (after all, I think you found this driver through a thread I started for it not long ago). So, be sure to let me know how it turns out after you get them!

13th December 2010, 04:25 PM	#4
Tom V diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2010	PE still has them. I just ordered two over the web. -Tom-

13th December 2010, 08:25 PM	#5
norman bates diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: iowa	the b20's have been discontinued. They had a few hundred a month ago. I called then. Norman

13th December 2010, 08:39 PM	#6
Vix diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Somewhere on Planet Earth	I guess it's discontinued because somebody realized they are too good for the money. So, there will be two new models in the future. Model 1 will be even cheaper, but rubbish sounding, and another "premium" model will sonically be just a bit better than a B20, but will be 10x more expensive... I hope I'm wrong...

14th December 2010, 12:09 AM	#8
jc56043 diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2008	Thanks to you guys I have just ordered a pair before they are all gone. Poor man's Fostex no more. Anyone got any suggestions for an alternative?

14th December 2010, 02:52 PM	#9
LCole diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2009	mcm electronics seems to have a treasure trove of 'el-cheapos' that, on paper, seem to be worth playing around with. I have not tried anything over 6.5" (woofers), but if you are looking for dollar value, they may be a good place to start.

14th December 2010, 02:54 PM	#10
LCole diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2009	I forgot to mention- they used to carry both the a11 and the b20's but discontinued these about 6 months ago.

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