Frugel-Horn Mk3 - Page 34

Toppsy · 27th February 2011, 06:58 PM

Jemraid,

The FH Mk3 should be ideal for your room and from the 2-pairs that I have built should be no problems spaced 58" apart.

As you are corner loading them the Fostex FE126En will be a fine performer. However, if you crave a little more bass I heartily recommend the Mark Audio CHP70 instead.

best place I have found to buy the CHP70 is from here: Lautsprecher Selbstbau by blue planet acoustic

In the UK cheapest place to buy the Fostex are Ebay Germany.

If you live anywhere near Manchester you are welcome to come over listen to my pairs before you commit?

jemraid · 27th February 2011, 10:45 PM

Dear Toppsy,

That is a very generous offer and I would love to hear your FH's. I wonder if you'd mind if I brought my Needles and Gainclone to make a comparison.

I live near Chesterfield about an hour or so from you, I'm retired so I could come at any time to suit you. It would be nice trip over the moors :-)

My warmest wishes and thanks to you - Jim

planet10 · 28th February 2011, 04:36 AM

Frugel-Horn Mk3 flat-paks

dave

Toppsy · 28th February 2011, 07:53 AM

Jemraid wrote

Quote:

Dear Toppsy,

That is a very generous offer and I would love to hear your FH's. I wonder if you'd mind if I brought my Needles and Gainclone to make a comparison.

I live near Chesterfield about an hour or so from you, I'm retired so I could come at any time to suit you. It would be nice trip over the moors :-)

Jim, you have private message.

MilesCampbell · 28th February 2011, 08:19 AM

Hello all

Further to Toppsy post yesterday rummaging on ebay I found this seller
pjn-audio items - Get great deals on items on eBay UK!

Hope this helps, and I'm sorry if it's old news
Miles

planet10 · 28th February 2011, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MilesCampbell

I'm sorry if it's old news

It is old news to Scott & I. You will note that these are 16mm MDF. Not really sufficient. Needs to be at least 18mm MDF, but 15mm ply would be better {i'd rather not see MDF at all).

Scott wrote to him about that and got a tirade back. If someone wants to talk him into a properly built pair i'd say go for it. For now i'd rather send people to those willing to build to a certain standard... it isn't a good thing having inferior boxes out there.

He did get his licence, and since eBay doesn't allow a link to FH.com you won't find mention of it. Hopefully some competition will smarten him up.

dave

MilesCampbell · 28th February 2011, 09:17 AM

Thank you for the advice - keep up the good work on this excellent project

Miles

chuyler1 · 1st March 2011, 02:27 PM

I've seen a few great photos of MK3s over the last few pages. Can anyone comment on how they sound compared to the MK1/MK2?

Highef · 1st March 2011, 03:05 PM

I'm also following the new FHMk3 although having no much time for audio researching in the last months.
I have few questions, sorry if they are already answered.
- How the FH3Mk3 with the new Fostex 126En sounds compared to a Fonken 127E?
- A little off topic: The stock Fostex 126En requires EnAbl? I read somewhere about EnAbl2. Where can I find more info?

thanks
HF

planet10 · 1st March 2011, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuyler1

I've seen a few great photos of MK3s over the last few pages. Can anyone comment on how they sound compared to the MK1/MK2?

If you follow the link in post#333, there is a link to a thread on audio-talk that has some good comments on sound.

Mk2 FH never got past the initial design stage. FE126En caused a jump over it to Mk3.

FE126eN vrs FE126eN^2 FH3 is, in general, smoother thru the bass, and extracts more bass especially in cases where corner support is not available.

I can't speak to the difference between stock FE126e vrs FE126En except to say that the new driver has tamed the 7k peak to the point where i don't have to add a special fix for it. If one compares the few instances of FE126eN^2 based on the old driver vrs the same based on the new driver, they are VERY close.

The FH Mk3 has the distinct advantage of having its character change with different drivers. For instance if you like a big plummy (slightly exaggerated bass) bass, choose one of the 4 4" Mark Audio drivers and use a little less stuffing under the driver than would be optimal. Want the smoothest, most neutral sound with a deep soundstage choose Alpair7eN. Don;t have corners and want to rock, choose EL70 or CHP70. Want more downward dynamic range, and better staging, EnABL them.

dave

28th February 2011, 04:36 AM	#333
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1st March 2011, 03:05 PM	#339
Highef diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Right above on the left	I'm also following the new FHMk3 although having no much time for audio researching in the last months. I have few questions, sorry if they are already answered. - How the FH3Mk3 with the new Fostex 126En sounds compared to a Fonken 127E? - A little off topic: The stock Fostex 126En requires EnAbl? I read somewhere about EnAbl2. Where can I find more info? thanks HF __________________ The Image Of Sound

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27th February 2011, 06:58 PM	#331
Toppsy diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lancashire, England	Jemraid, The FH Mk3 should be ideal for your room and from the 2-pairs that I have built should be no problems spaced 58" apart. As you are corner loading them the Fostex FE126En will be a fine performer. However, if you crave a little more bass I heartily recommend the Mark Audio CHP70 instead. best place I have found to buy the CHP70 is from here: Lautsprecher Selbstbau by blue planet acoustic In the UK cheapest place to buy the Fostex are Ebay Germany. If you live anywhere near Manchester you are welcome to come over listen to my pairs before you commit?

27th February 2011, 10:45 PM	#332
jemraid diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NE Derbyshire	Dear Toppsy, That is a very generous offer and I would love to hear your FH's. I wonder if you'd mind if I brought my Needles and Gainclone to make a comparison. I live near Chesterfield about an hour or so from you, I'm retired so I could come at any time to suit you. It would be nice trip over the moors :-) My warmest wishes and thanks to you - Jim

28th February 2011, 08:19 AM	#335
MilesCampbell diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: London	Hello all Further to Toppsy post yesterday rummaging on ebay I found this seller pjn-audio items - Get great deals on items on eBay UK! Hope this helps, and I'm sorry if it's old news Miles

28th February 2011, 09:17 AM	#337
MilesCampbell diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: London	Thank you for the advice - keep up the good work on this excellent project Miles

1st March 2011, 02:27 PM	#338
chuyler1 diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Massachusetts	I've seen a few great photos of MK3s over the last few pages. Can anyone comment on how they sound compared to the MK1/MK2?