AN Super 10 and H Frame Goldwood

[tonytex]

With great joy i have enjoyed a pair of AN Super 10 in the 2.8 cbft enclosures recommended.
However i want a little more and something more exotic....would like to have a bit of the whoooo factor
Anyway after reading about the Goldwood 1858 woofer in a H Frame i was wondering if anyone could suggest a possible combination with the AN Super10.
I will build the H frame for the 1858 but how should i use the AN 10, in a sealed box, or OB
What size sealed? what size OB?
What crossover point for the 1858 and Super10?
All help and suggestions are most welcomed
Tony

[preiter]

Required reading:

Jordan JX92S OB with a Goldwood GW-1858 Woofer in an H Frame Project

I would go open baffle all the way if you have the space for it. You will need to bi-amp with those drivers.

[freddi]

with some tailoring of AN10 that should be fun OB with GW1858 - I've one AN10 in a little K-coupler and it plays a bass drum quite well within its excursion and overall tone is better than 70 liter 42hz tuned reflex which has no punch

[tonytex]

I had not thought of the AN in a K coupler.
Can you email me the specs so i can give a go at making it please?
In the current enclosure i find the bass to be somewhat on a diet!
I am not saying i want tons of it, but as i listen to a wide variety of music, so i find that it is somewhat lacking , especially when you take into account its a 10" driver.

[freddi]

here's basic dimensions of that coupler from a 1965 "X15" - I think the 3 piece reflector could be simplified to one basic panel and a top deflector. It might not go as "deep" small signal on a graph as a reflex but can have more usable power and better damping of cone motion.

X15 rough sketch to eventually be made into a readible plan

[tonytex]

Great stuff Freddi
i will try to decifere the picture you sent, although i am having a hard time understanding it.....
do you have a better diagram, more explicit
more dimensions?

[tonytex]

Hi Preiter What about using the Super10 in a OB!
i have read the thread and although its quite easy to understand what i am not grasping is how to begin calculating the baffle for the Super10?
THe sub is easy, copy paste but the matching to the Super10 is the problem1
what about using just the Super10, will it have decent results?
Or what about using it ia a Moose Family BVR, Chang?

[preiter]

Originally Posted by tonytex

Hi Preiter What about using the Super10 in a OB!
i have read the thread and although its quite easy to understand what i am not grasping is how to begin calculating the baffle for the Super10?
THe sub is easy, copy paste but the matching to the Super10 is the problem1
what about using just the Super10, will it have decent results?
Or what about using it ia a Moose Family BVR, Chang?

If, like the MJK project, you are cutting the full-ranger off around 200 Hz, the baffle isn't so much of an issue. The same size baffle should work. You can play around with "the edge" baffle simulator if you like.

The thing that makes the Super10 different from the JX92 is that it is too sensitive to mate up with the Goldwood 1858 with a passive crossover. You will need to bi-amp so that you can set the gain individually on the two drivers.

[freddi]

hi tonytex - I didn't "send" anything but that link had some info - perhaps some confusing - so maybe this is a bit better. I believe I've got AN10's adapter board center on the same center as the 15" cutout. Its better for me than my 70 liter 42Hz reflex which has no useful power at all with 1mm xmax

X15 copy one of which holds a Super10 - of course the waveguide isn't needed with AN10's excellent HF extension


My X15 had this vent system but apparently they varied and usually had a rear-shelf lowpass choke


Aperture details - divide by 2 to make a wing

X15 coupler Slot Width (starting at top and going down in 1" increments)

Zero - initial gap = 0.5"

1" down; width = 0.46875'
2'" down, width = 0.5625"
3" down, width = 0.6875"
4" down, width = 0.875"
5" down, width = 1.125"
6" down, width = 1.9375"
7" down, width = 1.78125"
8" down, width = 2.15625"
9" down, width = 2.625"
10" down, width = 3.125"
11" down, width = 3.65625"
12" down, width = 4.25"
13" down, width = 4.9375"
14" down, width = 5.5625"
15" down, width = 6.3125"
16" down, width = 7.125"
17" down, width = 7.9375"
18" down, width = 8.84375'
19" down, width = 9.875"
20" down, width = 10.8125"
21" down, width = 11.875"
22" down, width = 12.9375"
23" down, width = 14.125"
24" down, width = 15.28125"
25" down, width = 16.53125
26" down, width = 17.75"
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Side Dimensions

Front Dimensions

[tonytex]

Freddi
Thank you first and foremost for the info!
i have now a better understanding of the Karlson speaker boxes and even found the plans for the Karlson 15.
How is it different to your X15 plans?
do you think the AN 10 will work well there?
I am really curious to see how the AN will perform as i must admit that the BR boxes have been a bit of a dissapointment.
Also found plans for the K12, would this be better suited for the AN, or just go for the bigger 15" Karlson box for the ultimate bass
regards....sorry for all the questions?