Mar-Kel70 in Sweden

[planet10]

Originally Posted by Rullknufs

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Where are the other 2 corners... i'm prepared to rearrange your room, even if you aren't. Gotta get your priorities right

dave

[chrisb]

Originally Posted by planet10

Where are the other 2 corners... i'm prepared to rearrange your room, even if you aren't. Gotta get your priorities right

dave

ya beat me to the punch on that

short of starting over with a particular model of dual driver floorstander that I may have mentioned before , and which I'd opine wouldn't need woofers in a room this size, if there's any way you could manage to hang wall shelves, I'd be very inclined to try one on the wall adjacent to the left side of the window and the other to the right of the computer desk

the boundary reinforcement would be slightly compromised by the window, but overall I think you'd get much better and more evenly distributed LF, and improved image/soundstage from the primary listening position

[planet10]

Originally Posted by chrisb

I'd be very inclined to try one on the wall adjacent to the left side of the window and the other to the right of the computer desk

I'm still inclined to wait till i see the other 2 corners of the room.

dave

[chrisb]

I'm thinking that the pictures are taken from near the listening position at head of the bed which is tight to the side wall, so one corner is behind, and that the door we see opens too close the wall on the left side, which means we've already seen all the available corners.

but I could be all wet about that

[Rullknufs]

Originally Posted by planet10

Your mom has you brainwashed. My mom woulda been pleased if it was that tidy when i was your age. Now i'm older and it is worse (but not as bad as it has been -- there are pictures somewhere on the forum)

dave

Haha, yes. It's relatively clean, since you can see the floor

[chrisb]

Originally Posted by Rullknufs

Haha, yes. It's relatively clean, since you can see the floor

any photos of the as yet unseen corners?

[Rullknufs]

Originally Posted by chrisb

any photos of the as yet unseen corners?

I thought they were visible... But okay, taking some new photos then...

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This is four corners, i haven't got any more

I have been thinking of near-field, placing the speakers on my desktop, but i would have to fit an amplifier somewhere AND a subwoofer and i'm unsure how it would be with having it under my desk... No, i think i prefer having them at the wall left of me.

[chrisb]

Originally Posted by Rullknufs

I thought they were visible... But okay, taking some new photos then...

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This is four corners, i haven't got any more

I have been thinking of near-field, placing the speakers on my desktop, but i would have to fit an amplifier somewhere AND a subwoofer and i'm unsure how it would be with having it under my desk... No, i think i prefer having them at the wall left of me.

Well I guess I was close on the configuration of the room, but mistook your primary listening position - it's actually from the (wall mounted?) computer desk?

IINM, I probably would have suggested the smaller mMarKel for a room this size - much easier to mount on small book / wall shelf, and still a decent performer.

You may not have yet decided what form factor your next step should take, and as I see it there are 2 directions you could try.

First would be to simply to mount the existing (or even smaller mMarKel) cabs on the current wall, spaced further apart, and place the sub in the corner near the window.

Second would be floorstanders, either something like a Pensil (very easy build), or if you're contemplating a second pair of drivers, the design that Dave posted a few back, or the castle microtowers. I'll say again that unless you're a total bass-head or play an electric guitar through the system, 4 EL70s in a room this size could well eliminate the need for a powered woofer.

[Rullknufs]

Yes, it's at the wall-mounted computer desk
I wont have them on any shelf. Speaker stands is what it is supposed to be... My parents wouldn't allow mounting on a wall. And if i place anything near the corner i get the soundstage way over to the corner. Really annoying...

Yes. But if i build a EL70^2 floorstander i will add a bottom cabinet i think IF i want to add a woofer. And i would have to make them quite much higher anyways so...

[chrisb]

Originally Posted by Rullknufs

Yes, it's at the wall-mounted computer desk
I wont have them on any shelf. Speaker stands is what it is supposed to be... My parents wouldn't allow mounting on a wall. And if i place anything near the corner i get the soundstage way over to the corner. Really annoying...

Yes. But if i build a EL70^2 floorstander i will add a bottom cabinet i think IF i want to add a woofer. And i would have to make them quite much higher anyways so...

I'd like to try and get the speakers as far apart as possible without biasing the soundstage due to asymmetrical boundary loading. If you were to run a long shelf across the top of the dresser how close to the window could you get without that happening?

If you fake the height of the dual EL70 enough ( i.e. section off with internal divider), you can turn it into a floorstander without the need for separate stands, and probably have enough internal volume for a small woofer in each - even if they're added later, 'cause you need to hear how much LF energy 4 EL70s can create in the right cabinet a small room before deciding it's not enough. (did I say that already? )