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Old 21st March 2010, 05:10 PM   #21
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I think it was down to price. Not sure what price these two/three come in at.
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Old 21st March 2010, 05:17 PM   #22
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HI Mark and Scot
The title was probably chosen WRONG :S
no comparison, this is more like a help to choose the right one...
As I said, I have a 25,30 and 40cm sphere shape at hand, volumes are 8,2L/14L/33L .
The living room size is 4.7x4.5x2.3m high.
The system will be more like a F.A.S.T. so the full ranger will get support from bottom.
I'm only considering the Sigma, because I've found the driver here in Japan for good money (100euro/each). As I said, if I can't save enough within 2 weeks, I wont be buying Sigmas, and will have to choose between cheaper drivers. But its a good deal....will see.
From the Alpair range I'm thinking of the 7 and 10
From TB range I'm thinking of the W4 and W5
From other drivers I'm open to suggestions.

From time to time I like to crank things up. At this time they would be driven from an old amp (yamaha), but I'd like to change to valve....

Danny

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Old 21st March 2010, 05:18 PM   #23
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I think it was down to price. Not sure what price these two/three come in at.
Yes, Bill got it right. If I buy the Sigmas, I could save up to 120Euros.
Sigma pair - 200Euros
Alpair7 pair - 130Euros
Alpair10 pair - 240Euros
TB pair - 100Euros
....and so on

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Old 21st March 2010, 06:40 PM   #24
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If you want some philosophy, a bargain is only a bargain if you intended to buy it in the first place, or it fits your particular requirements. Loudspeaker drive units are no different in this sense from washing powder in the local supermarket. If you spot a 2 for 1 offer on biological detergent down the local Sainsbury's (or whereever), it's not much use if a/ you've already got a dozen boxes of detergent at home, and b/ you are allergic to the stuff & can only use non-bio. QED.

So, ask yourself: what are my requirements? You want to put together, as I understand it, a FAST system with the wide-band units in a sphere of some kind. So, a/ you need to establish what will work in the spheres you have available, and b/ which of those that will actually work will best suit your needs. Do you want high efficiency? What amplification will be used? How large a room? What material will be played? What do you value in presentation? And so on.

For example: the FE168ESigmas are a high efficiency driver, with (as far as these things go) a good dynamic response and a nice midband but are not particularly smooth in the HF. Conversely the Alpair 7 is a smaller unit that has a wider BW & better controlled response, but it won't go as loud, nor will it match the dynamic response of the larger Fostex. Bit like comparing a large floorstander to a standmount monitor: they both do what they do well, so ultimately you pays your money, & you takes your choice. Only you know exactly what you're looking for / which, if either, would suit you best.
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Old 21st March 2010, 07:02 PM   #25
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Scott, thank you very much.
Basically, I think in my head I've decided, that if I can get enough money for the Sigmas, I will go for them. If not, Alpair7 or 10 it will be, the A10 on later date (more expensive).And if I don't like the sigmas, I can sell them again
As for the amp, I'd like to buy or build a valve amp, so power will be low-ish.
I have no experience with FR units whatsoever, so this will be the first.And I'd like to make it good at first try, as there will be no time nor money for next project (buy/build a house).
I done some DIY speakers before, but all 2 and more way.

Danny
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Old 21st March 2010, 07:04 PM   #26
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Yes, Bill got it right. If I buy the Sigmas, I could save up to 120Euros.
Sigma pair - 200Euros
Alpair7 pair - 130Euros
Alpair10 pair - 240Euros
TB pair - 100Euros
....and so on

Danny
I guess you are not wanting to anything in the signal path like BSC.

I was researching the excellent little tang band W4-1720 mid bass-( about 75 euros pair); decent SPLs, controlled bass and amazing mids according to reviews. In one review the in-room HF looked very smooth (rolled off nicely) which made me suppose it could be left 'unadulterated' and just have a super tweet added.
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Old 21st March 2010, 07:14 PM   #27
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Yes Bill, no network in the path. I don't have good experience with x-overs, and to get one made by someone will be very very expensive - troels made me an offer at 1500 euros :O

I only mention the Sigmas, because I read a lot of praise on them. Of course a lot of praise on MA drivers (Mark, by the way, absolutely amazing job you doing there, thumbs up !!! ) and the TB respectively, all in their own price range. But if I can get something from another price range - read higher - then why not?
I do really hope to have enough in 2 weeks

Danny

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Old 21st March 2010, 07:44 PM   #28
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Same here- I will design a curved (ported) cab to avoid BSC issue - have a few drivers in mind but leaning towards the JX92s for their decent bass/SPLs
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Old 21st March 2010, 07:53 PM   #29
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Bill, I don't know why, but the JX92s are 220Euros a peace. Waaaay too much
Your lucky to afford them
What size of enclosure are you thinking of? Do you have a sketch?
I'm always interested in new ideas

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Old 21st March 2010, 07:58 PM   #30
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220?? wwhaaattt how is that so

In uk (Wilmslow hifi) they are about 97 + 17.5 % vat each

the company who produce them (EAD)are based in Stockholm - as I'm half swedish I might purchase them there when I go in May
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