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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Beograd, Serbia
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Hallo guys (and girls). I just received my pair of BetsyK 8" fullrangers from WildBurroAudio (at 50% discount - a bargain,he,he) and I'd like to make onken box for it. Onken calc is giving me this results :
Vtotal=133l Vport=10l port dimm: 4x9x32 cm, Nports=8 A big box,but I can live with that, and more important - my wife agrees . I'd change dimension of the port :2x18x32cm, same volume and length ,shouldn't be a problem. I'm just worried about those 133l, Vas is 83l, am I using calculator correctly ? Re 5.7 ohms Fs 49.959Hz Sd 22.966 BL 5.471 Qms 2.798 Qes .548 Qts .458 Spl 94.6 Vas 82.914L Mms 9.167g Thanks. |
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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Hi Nesha, which Onken calculator are you using?
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Beograd, Serbia
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The same one Andrea was using in his Hi efficiency +Onken project
Hi-End and Hi-Eff loudspeakers system I tried basreflex calc for ButerrworthB4 type box - result was 100 l, and Hoge type box - 130l. mh-audio.nl - Home Thanks for reply. |
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I wouldn't have thought that a driver with a QTS in the >0.3 range would be a good match for an Onken box.. Maybe there is something I am missing. I haven't run the numbers in the Onken calculator yet. You are using Cyr Marc Debien's Onken Calculator (Koizumi/Mahul) aren't you? Certain parameters not being met disqualify it as a real Onken box.
Watch the port length, anything over 32cm is a concern due to serious comb filtering effects due to the excessive delay between the ports and the driver's direct radiation.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Beograd, Serbia
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I just checked again : port 4x9,5 x 32,5 cm ; calculator say 35cm is critical port length.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Beograd, Serbia
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Jes Kevin , that's the one I'm using. And I thought I can get away with 32,5cm
port length ... ![]() |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Beograd, Serbia
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So, OK?
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Chamblee, Ga.
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Well, when I 'run the numbers' I get a somewhat different set of values for a n = 6.34, but adding more series Rg will of course increase the cab's net Vb, but either way the effective vent length (L' vent) is less than yours, so wondering if you're quoting the acoustically uncorrected length (L vent).
Note that I adjusted Mms/d to get the desired Vas spec since it calculates a slightly larger cab. Regardless, Qts is > ~0.403 where Vb = Vas, Fb = Fs, so cab net Vb will be >Vas and Fb will be <Fs. GM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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nesha - do what GM told ya - he knows these things
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