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Old 15th December 2009, 07:14 AM   #1
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Default Tang Band W4-1052SD build help

Hi guys. I have only a lurker here at DIYauio (mostly in the analog section though) and have decided to build my first set of fullrangers. I bought some Tang Band W4-1052SD's and have used WinISD (well there online calc, I use linux and didn't want to bother trying to make it work) to come up with some figures for a box design and wanted to run my thoughts by you guys to see if I'm somewhat on the right track
.46 vb

58.59 tune fq

.07 acoustic power

2in dia port 2.3in long

I got the acoustic power rating by putting in the 15 watts of power per channel they will receive.

Now by my calculations I should get a vb of .461 with these outer box dimensions using 3/4" MDF

14" high
9" wide
10" deep

I just didn't know if I needed to take into account that I was building ported speaks in the volume formula.

Thanks for any input, Nick
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Old 16th December 2009, 04:58 PM   #2
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I have some w4-1052. I have used WinISD

I get 0.357 and Tuning Freq= 58 using datasheet parameters.
which T/S parameters did you use ?
I get the same values using the on-lin and the windows version so you don´t need to worry about vents. The calculated volume is the volume of the box.
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Old 17th December 2009, 02:57 AM   #3
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First post here, but I've been reading a lot and this thread actually sparked me to make an account. I'm actually getting the same speakers but I'm going to use a BIB design (Bigger Is Better 'BIB' Cabinet Dimensions - ZillaSpeak) with the W4s. There is an excel calculator you can use to calculate overall dimensions and whatnot, with the W4s, the cabinets (which are floor-standing) ended up around 4 and a half feet tall. Just thought I would throw out another option for you, and make sure to keep us update with whatever you decide to do!

-Charlie
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Old 17th December 2009, 12:58 PM   #4
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I have noticed the T/S parameters in the excel BIB calculator are different than the official ones (Tangband Speakers) for the W4-1052SD
whit the officialparameters the BIB box is a little smaller
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Old 18th December 2009, 02:31 AM   #5
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You are able to change the parameters in the calculator to whichever driver you want to model, then the other info changes accordingly to tell you the optimum dimensions and whatnot.
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Old 18th December 2009, 03:45 AM   #6
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I have noticed the T/S parameters in the excel BIB calculator are different than the official ones (Tangband Speakers) for the W4-1052SD
whit the officialparameters the BIB box is a little smaller
Note the model name difference. The Excel sheet was generated when TB was on an earlier 'version' of the same driver, the 1052SA, so the TS parameters are slightly different.
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Old 18th December 2009, 01:38 PM   #7
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Note the model name difference. The Excel sheet was generated when TB was on an earlier 'version' of the same driver, the 1052SA, so the TS parameters are slightly different.

Great ! I have the A version. i will try the BIB Box
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Old 29th December 2009, 06:40 AM   #8
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Any updates? Starting making the cuts for my BIBs with these drivers today, hope to have them mocked-up for listening in a few more....
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Old 30th December 2009, 08:06 AM   #9
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Hi, just for your infomation. As we speak, I am building another of my TABAQ cabinets to be tested with TB 4" 1320SB. Same construction as the 3" driver. According to the simulations with Martin J. King´s software, the 4" drivers should do fine in this construction. I want to compare TABAQ with 3" and 4" drivers.
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Old 15th January 2010, 12:19 AM   #10
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Well I have had my BIBs with these TB W4s completed for about a week now (minus putting a finish on them, but I'd rather be able to listen to them!) and I must admit I really like them a lot. My room isn't very great for listening and being able to set them up but I still like them a ton. I have them paired with a MCM 8" sub in a sealed box thats about 1 cu ft. but that's not to say I wouldn't, and don't, enjoy them without the sub when I want to be a little quieter. The treble isn't "sparkling" but I rather enjoy the more relaxed treble and they extend surprisingly low. All in all, for the $50 speakers, and the $15 for the OSB I used on the enclosures, I am very happy with the results and it was a great first project for me. Anyone else have any projects completed using these?
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