Sachiko Builld Thread

[Pit Hinder]

Ancient mariner - I don´t trust factory spec sheets, but off the cuff ~10ltr. sealed and subs as stands under both? A real puncher sub up to ~100Hz might be a bit of a job though. Bandpass perhaps?

[lae2]

Originally Posted by Scottmoose

Well, the room's an acoustic nightmare with that pool table. If I'm not reading things incorrectly, sounds like you're listening behind the table, so that pretty much puts the lid on high quality sound; there'll be reflections etc. all over the shop.

Perhaps I put the pool table in the kitchen. In that case; do you think Hiro would be effective in the main room? I am not keen on subs or tweeters. I am shying away from Sachiko because, in my naivety, it seems that the Hiro might outperform Sachiko. I am not a bass fanatic. Mostly, I am interested in a delicate (fast, detailed, musical, black, silent, whatever) speaker that may reflect subtle changes in upstream electronics. Frankly, if Hiro sounded as good as my Aerials I would be happy. I doubt that my 85 db Aerials are going match up well with the sub five watt amplifiers I am building.

The table complicates the room. I listened for 20 years in this room without the table. I sat on an cushy listening chair; the only chair in the room. I had the luxury of fiddling with speaker placement and listening position. Now I sit on a bar stool with my legs resting across cushions placed on the table. Thus my ears are positioned much higher than the typical listening position. The imaging is adequate to hold my interest. In fact, I have auditioned 50K plus systems in heavily tweaked rooms where I continue to prefer mine even as it currently is configured. Nevertheless, it is far from ideal with the table.

[planet10]

Originally Posted by lae2

I am not a bass fanatic. Mostly, I am interested in a delicate (fast, detailed, musical, black, silent, whatever) speaker that may reflect subtle changes in upstream electronics.

You should be looking at Saburo with FE126eN then.

dave

[lae2]

Originally Posted by planet10

You should be looking at Saburo with FE126eN then.

dave

Thank you for the suggestion. Maybe I will buy the Saburo from Cervelorider and possibly upgrade to the 126eN, then build Hiro and Sachiko, and decide which to keep. Thank you to everyone.

[mp9]

...and if you feel like bringing your Saburo 126en to Philadelphia we can compare them. I'm currently using a Fi2A3 set and old Scott 222c p-p amps so i'm within and above your target watt range.

[lae2]

Philadelphia. There must be resonance in this part of the world with S.L.'s efforts. Saburos for sale in Toledo; FE168eS for sale in Pittsburgh; and you have Hiros in Philadelphia. My more traditional hardware is from Overture in Wilmington. I am planning to audition Devore's near Valley Forge. I would be interested in hearing your Hiros at some point. For now, my truck is busted in the driveway and apt to stay that way for awhile. I wish Cervolorider would quickly sell his Saburos and relieve my torment. My intuitions are that the Saburos might be a little light in my room. Thank you for the suggestion.

[Scottmoose]

Originally Posted by Pit Hinder

Ancient mariner - I don´t trust factory spec sheets, but off the cuff ~10ltr. sealed and subs as stands under both? A real puncher sub up to ~100Hz might be a bit of a job though. Bandpass perhaps?

If you need compact, that'd be a good way to go. Need to watch the VC heating of course.

[Pit Hinder]

Been there, enjoyed it. 206 in a pair christened "The Bathrooms" because completely tiled inside. A good fullrange tuned to Qtc=.5 in a really silent enclosure...quite nice to be reminded that a concert guitar has real bite.

And 10ltr. = compact? Mate, you have been with horn fans rather than housewives for too long.

[Rullknufs]

Well, i wont be able to sit 10ft from the speakers, it will make me sit just at the back wall. And the room is around 4x4m or so. So my room will be too small for Sachiko i guess?
But, what happens if i sit closer than 10-12ft? If i sit let's say 7-8ft and have a couple of feet to my back wall? Yes, i wont be optimal and i wont be able to squish out every last bit of performance but will it sound good at all or just shitshitshit?

And, what's BB plywood?

[Pit Hinder]

Rullknufs (is your real name shorter than that?),

BB = Baltic Birch. Birch is very good, but one has to endure the midgets in summer where the trees grow?

Speaker size - you have to pay for what you get. An 8" driver in a smallish room beams too much for the whole family on the sofa, only the one in the middle sits in the "Sweet Spot".
On the other hand - sharper beaming, less wall reflexions, good for enjoying music on your own.
Problems and decisions?