Huge speaker fakes the record room acousticsn

[chrisb]

Originally Posted by Key

Cool, will check it out. Really it's better than I could do with a translation - kinda hard to learn a new language in America since everyone speaks English.

really?

[Key]

For really real. I can't learn a language in a class it just doesn't work for me if I have no one to talk to.

[cbdb]

"Fakes the record room"

Which record room? The vocal booth in L.A. or the concrete bunker they recorded the drums in in New York?

Most recording "rooms" come out of a reverb device, or a plugin in your favourite recording software.

This would be more interesting if the music was mixed on this system. Then the rooms (mixing and reproducing) might dissapear and you'll hear exactly what the mixer/producer heard. Which IMO is what we should be striving for.

[syntheticwave]

Originally Posted by cbdb

"Fakes the record room" Which record room? The vocal booth in L.A. or the concrete bunker they recorded the drums in in New York? Most recording "rooms" come out of a reverb device, or a plugin in your favourite recording software.

That isn’t the solution, but the problem. If we merge together the source signal and all reflections in some channels, we can radiate all wave fronts only from common, mostly wrong, directions.
On the other hand convolution isn’t a problem today, if you transmit the dry recorded signal, we can convolve it on the playback side for reverberation. But we have the source signal for produce the first reflections from the model of the desired recording room. So we can fake its reflections correctly. The transmitting standard would be MPEG4, the principle is Wave field synthesis.

Regards H.

[Key]

I disagree syntheticwave because there is more to it than just 2 independent tracks in a stereo signal. Also I can't blame generated ambiance as being bad because I have heard some sloppy wet recordings done with mics as well as impulse based reverbs. I dunno if I exactly see an advantage to giving the person who plays back the tracks control over the reverb when on most recordings I hear the reflections are omnipresent while the sources are discrete in the signals already.

[syntheticwave]

Originally Posted by Key

I disagree syntheticwave because there is more to it than just 2 independent tracks in a stereo signal. Also I can't blame generated ambiance as being bad because I have heard some sloppy wet recordings done with mics as well as impulse based reverbs. I dunno if I exactly see an advantage to giving the person who plays back the tracks control over the reverb when on most recordings I hear the reflections are omnipresent while the sources are discrete in the signals already.

… also wrong keys particularry.

I agree the reverberation is omnipresent, its spatial distribution hardly important for the detection of the source position. But the first reflections, that’s another case. Its time and direction are the most important cue for our perception of a sound event. We cannot simply merge it in two common channels. The difference in angle regarding the source position is the base of the acoustic “Attractions” in the genuine sound field.

The goal of the Holophony principle isn’t giving the control to the listener; the goal is avoid misguiding cues, caused by first reflections on wrong times from wrong directions.


Regards Helmut

[syntheticwave]

Originally Posted by FullRangeMan

This is the best mono system I see on plans.
Regards

Hi, Full Range Man,

at first, congratulations for the olympic games in brazil.

But the system isnt really mono, at least not more mono as any arbitary real source. The systen restore the spatial sound field in the same manner as the recording room builds up the spatial sound field.

Regards H.
www.holophony.net

[FullRangeMan]

Originally Posted by syntheticwave

Hi, Full Range Man,
at first, congratulations for the olympic games in brazil.
But the system isnt really mono, at least not more mono as any arbitary real source. The systen restore the spatial sound field in the same manner as the recording room builds up the spatial sound field.
Regards H.
www.holophony.net

Thanks for the compliment friend. Being sincere, I must told to you as a audiophile since 14 years old I have no interest at all in games (only F1, F Indy etc), but this is good for the country anyway.
A big county is made with engineers and workers, the lawyers and athletes are dispensable, they do not build anything, just play with a ball and the lawyers as everyone knows are plagues of insects.
Regards, Gustavo

[syntheticwave]

Originally Posted by Key

Man that page is hard to read. Was that translated from german with some program or something?

Would anyone in the diyAudio Forum help for improve the translation of my www.holophony.net site, later we can share the Acoustic Nobel Price.

Regards Helmut

[chrisb]

Originally Posted by Key

For really real. I can't learn a language in a class it just doesn't work for me if I have no one to talk to.

sorry for the delayed reply to these totally off-topic post exchanges, but my earlier jibe was to the assertion "in America, since everyone speaks English"


I'd wager that's there's a substantial population (citizens or not, and not including tourists) that don't, even as a second language. That's certainly the case in many parts of Canada - Hongcouver and Surrey to name just a couple.