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Old 18th March 2012, 09:16 PM   #401
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Which TB W8..the 1808 or the 1772 did you compare. For OB application which would be a better choice to be used from 100Hz and upto 4-6K Hz.

How about the Fostex 8 inch drivers: the 206En and 208EZ, compared to the TB W8 drivers and Lowther ?

Which of the Lowther is best value for money do you think, for an OB.
So many questions today

Here's some opinions:

I like both the 1808 and 1772, but the 1808 is a little closer to what I go
for, a little more excursion and Qts. This is very application dependent,
but if you're mating it with a woofer in an OB at 160 Hz like I usually do,
it doesn't matter much and the efficiency difference is not that much.

I like the Fostex drivers in general, but I've always felt like the 206E needs
a decent tweeter and a woofer, which makes it a decent midrange. Not
my favorite. The FE166E is better IMHO, if you are using a woofer also.

The FE208E-Sigma is a really nice unit, and also appreciates a tweeter. It
makes a very fine midrange, but I suggest you look at the FE168E- Sigma
if that is your use - equally good at the low end of the midrange and better
dispersion at higher frequencies. I really like this one, and you can use
it without a tweeter.

Feastrex? D9nf is what I paid money for, and I like it very much. The
others are very good also, but I considered the D9nf the best buy for me.

Lowthers? The PM6A is my go-to recommendation, although I like the
PM5A a bit more. If you are getting either, the Ticonal magnet and silver
16 ohm voice coils are worth the extra money, and are much less than
the price of the Feastrex.

Feastrex vs Lowthers? It's a horse race. I have a good relationship with
Jon Ver Halen at Lowther America, and also with Joe Cohen (Lotus Group)
who has distributed Feastrex, but in both cases the basis of the friendship
has been the quality of the drivers.

I have not had reliability issues with any of these products.

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Old 18th March 2012, 09:18 PM   #402
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I also like Nelson's HUGE open baffle, what is it, 2' wide and 2' deep straight back wings crossed around 150hz ?
That would be my small baffle. My biggest is 36"W by 72"H.

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Old 19th March 2012, 03:52 PM   #403
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wow, that's a bit big for me. I like the piano hinges swept back wings open baffle, similar to the phy, but that makes for a huge number of screws to install !!!!!!!!!

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Old 19th March 2012, 04:45 PM   #404
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Thanks a lot Nelson for taking the time to reply to SOOO many questions and sharing your experience.

Some people say an 8 incher midrange is the best for authentic reproduction of deep male vocals...even if the simulated low end extension may be similar for smaller mid ranges....moreso for an OB where apparently beaming into the high-mid-range-low-treble is less offensive as the reflected back wave fills in and surrounds the front radiation ( per SL on the Orion site). That is why I started with the Fostex 208 E sigma and not the 168E sigma. But now I definitely have to try the 168 E Sigma too Wonder if it can make the ribbon redundant
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Old 20th March 2012, 04:36 PM   #405
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Back in the days I always wanted a fullrange speaker and listened to many of them but neither Frostex or noLow-there impressed me. Speed, attack, transient response yes - linearity, bass, highs no. I changed to full fullrange use only after Tangband and Markaudio emerged. In small to midsize rooms the TB W4-655 blows away every Frostex or no-Low-there hands down. Even classic music sounds good with these small diamonds.
I respect other peoples tastes but to understand...that's though...
If someone is happy with these problematic FR units (Fostex & Lowther) please feel free to enjoy your listening...yuck...sorry....
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Old 20th March 2012, 05:39 PM   #406
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Back in the days I always wanted a fullrange speaker and listened to many of them but neither Frostex or noLow-there impressed me. Speed, attack, transient response yes - linearity, bass, highs no. I changed to full fullrange use only after Tangband and Markaudio emerged. In small to midsize rooms the TB W4-655 blows away every Frostex or no-Low-there hands down. Even classic music sounds good with these small diamonds.
I respect other peoples tastes but to understand...that's though...
If someone is happy with these problematic FR units (Fostex & Lowther) please feel free to enjoy your listening...yuck...sorry....

fair and balanced post

you've heard every Fostex and Lowther in their appropriate enclosures? - no small feat that
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Old 20th March 2012, 06:46 PM   #407
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I have been listening a lot lately to my iPhone using the standard Apple headphones. Over the weekend I listened to my big rig and it sounded a little dull. After a few minutes everything sounded wonderful... going back to the earbuds was not easy but now it's mid-week and they sound great again.

My question is if any of these very expensive drivers is actually doing something to make the music sound better?
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Old 20th March 2012, 07:16 PM   #408
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I have been listening a lot lately to my iPhone using the standard Apple headphones. Over the weekend I listened to my big rig and it sounded a little dull. After a few minutes everything sounded wonderful... going back to the earbuds was not easy but now it's mid-week and they sound great again.

My question is if any of these very expensive drivers is actually doing something to make the music sound better?

a couple of factors at play methinks, not the least of which is a corollary of the placebo affect - I'd call it expenditure justification phenomena ( a subset of machismo - "see, my wallet* is bigger than yours" ) used to see that a lot in the retail trade


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Old 27th March 2012, 02:16 PM   #409
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I can't see any justification for the Lowther prices. In comparison TB's W8 series is cheap. If you want to count the enclosure in...things get really worse for Lowther.

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Old 27th March 2012, 02:31 PM   #410
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@Nelson Pass:
BTW, I just read that Herb Reichert is a friend of yours. I love this guy. He is bloody right about SE amps and silver cables "...don't buy clothes, go naked - don't buy food but do buy silver..."

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