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Old 21st May 2009, 10:38 AM   #11
nicoch58 is offline nicoch58  Europe
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french make a good driver in the past ,I owned audax tpx and focal 5k, wonderful in 1985....

now I love my 215s bicone in OB better the my two way scanpeaks (15w-9800)
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Old 21st May 2009, 12:46 PM   #12
lrntglls is offline lrntglls  Canada
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MJK, yes it is the outmost importance that you can trust the

person you're dealing with. Since, these are small compagnies

and in a foreign country, the after sale service must be perfect.

I've been involved with Fertin Acoustic and Emspeaker for some

years now, and I fully understand the importance of having

someone to answer your questions and deal with any problem
that might arise.

I make it a rule that everyone that deals with Fertin and Emspeaker

get complete satisfaction and you get an answer to your e-mail the

same day. If there's a problem it must be delt with as fast as possible.

I think it's important for North American audiophiles to have access

to these drivers.

Elac: Emspeaker will have a new interacting website in a couple
of weeks.
As for Fertin: Jean-Marie should do the same. He can't
keep up building the model 7 . The demand in Europe and Asia
is considerable but he should update his website...will I keep
telling him....
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Old 21st May 2009, 01:54 PM   #13
tinitus is offline tinitus  Europe
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Originally posted by lrntglls

Elac: Emspeaker will have a new interacting website in a couple
of weeks.

I wont buy anything that I cant see, or lacks information
Im sure many feel the same way
sometimes we know very little, and sometimes we know too much
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Old 21st May 2009, 04:16 PM   #14
lrntglls is offline lrntglls  Canada
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I wont buy anything that I cant see, or lacks information Im sure many feel the same way
I understand,

Having the specs and being able to listen would be the ideal
situation but sometime it's not always possible. You can talk with
the manufacturer about your concerns ( in a small compagny , it's
always a possibility) but the final decision always belongs to the

I would say that most customers haven't listen before buying.
From my knowledge, they are mostly experience audiophiles that
know what they want in audio. And from their comments ,this
wasn't a big problem either.
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Old 21st May 2009, 08:49 PM   #15
rjb is offline rjb  New Zealand
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MJK is only partly right in recommending using only local distributors.

Being in a small country at the end of the world we don't have that luxury of limiting ourselves as he does, so have to deal with overseas suppliers all the time.

Which of course is what any local distributor does anyway.

Generally British and large American firms are well represented here, as of course the multinationals.
Smaller and medium size firms less well.

I have found that good service relates totally to that provided by original manufacturer, whether it be direct to the end user, or to the local distributor.

Take Lowther. The service in USA by the distributor seems to be good. However that provided directly by Lowther UK, the manufacturer, is also good. I can name other companies (in USA) that are just the reverse. So much so that the once-local distributor simply gave up on them. The manufacturer is now extinct.

Typically it is the medium size firms that cause the most problems, as they were set up before the internet made international trade so easy, and so think of terms of local users, rather than globally.

A local distributor can ease the end-users pain, he cannot work miracles. To limit yourself to only local suppliers may (or in my case - will) lead to a second-rate result.

By the way, when dealing with small firms from non-english speaking countries, using their language ( even if google translated) can help a hell of a lot. Small firms are usually also keen to get your business.
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Old 22nd May 2009, 06:27 AM   #16
56oval is offline 56oval  Australia
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I haven't heard any of the French Fullrangers but over the years have heard and own Triangle,Focal,Cabasse and now building a active speaker using Raven & PHL .
Latter this year I'm going to hear the new Alian Benard ribbons 8" mids and the 21" & 29" bass drivers .

Most of the french drivers are SET friendly .

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