Ultimate BLH FR?

Pano · 29th March 2009, 04:55 PM

I have not seen this one metioned here:

http://www.silbatoneacoustics.com/APORIAinfo.html

The Aporia. Supposed to do 35Hz to 35KHz. One driver. 110Kg each!

Who will be the first to clone this?

hm · 29th March 2009, 06:02 PM

i made this until 1991,
manger pur in the BASSTUBA,
fullrange i found the max. SPL is limited around 5 W impuls,
so what they wrote 120 dB is not real.

The Manger sound wave
transducer with a measurably
reproducible, exceptionally
homogenous, relaxing sound.

planet10 · 29th March 2009, 07:40 PM

Having heard the Manger, i can't get very excited about this horn. Very elegant executing thou, althou the similar topology Yamamura, i'd guess, might work better. And the less elegant, but over the top Klien horn.

http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue26/yamamura.htm

dave

Pano · 29th March 2009, 08:07 PM

Good catch on the Yamamura, Dave!

Nice looking BLH, HM!

Don't think I've ever hear the Manger, have only read about them.
Seems that HM likes them, Dave doesn't. Any thoughts on why or what for?

planet10 · 29th March 2009, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by panomaniac
Seems that HM likes them, Dave doesn't. Any thoughts on why or what for?

These seem to divide people up in a pretty black & white manner. I find them very artificial sounding and with constrained dynamics.

dave

Scottmoose · 29th March 2009, 10:40 PM

I heard a pair a year or so back. Quite a pleasent sound, rather 'hifi'; they seemed to give the impression of being detailed, but when you started listening closely it all seemed a bit superficial to me, and dynamics, as Dave said, weren't anything to write home about. Not to my taste, although I can understand why some people like them. YMMV as ever.

hm · 30th March 2009, 06:56 AM

Hello,
i think the Manger is a nice driver for near field, up
to 2 m max. and an educated ear and classic lovers,

Today if i see the sound performance between
Basstuba and Kornett, the cornet wins
in Bass, in soundstage, size, if you stand up by listening,
and $$$

Scottmoose · 30th March 2009, 09:46 AM

Yes, I'd say you're probably right about them suiting nearfield listening & (lighter) classical Horst. Give them anything more demanding, or ask them some serious questions though & things start to look a little bleak. To each their own.

mteinum · 30th March 2009, 10:24 AM

Great product photo, HM. Did you install that light inside the speaker permanent?

hm · 30th March 2009, 11:21 AM

Hello,

yes,
and light matches with the metal plate on the floor,
15 W lamp, look my avatar all with light
today i would do it only with LED and batterie.

29th March 2009, 04:55 PM	#1
Pano diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: North Carolina Blog Entries: 4	Ultimate BLH FR? I have not seen this one metioned here: http://www.silbatoneacoustics.com/APORIAinfo.html The Aporia. Supposed to do 35Hz to 35KHz. One driver. 110Kg each! Who will be the first to clone this? __________________ Take the Speaker Voltage Test!

29th March 2009, 06:02 PM	#2
hm diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: near Hamburg Germany	i made this until 1991, manger pur in the BASSTUBA, fullrange i found the max. SPL is limited around 5 W impuls, so what they wrote 120 dB is not real. The Manger sound wave transducer with a measurably reproducible, exceptionally homogenous, relaxing sound. __________________ http://www.hm-moreart.de

29th March 2009, 07:40 PM	#3
planet10 frugal-phile(tm) diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III Blog Entries: 5	Having heard the Manger, i can't get very excited about this horn. Very elegant executing thou, althou the similar topology Yamamura, i'd guess, might work better. And the less elegant, but over the top Klien horn. http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue26/yamamura.htm dave __________________ community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com, frugal-phile.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi p10-hifi forum here at diyA

29th March 2009, 08:07 PM	#4
Pano diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: North Carolina Blog Entries: 4	Good catch on the Yamamura, Dave! Nice looking BLH, HM! Don't think I've ever hear the Manger, have only read about them. Seems that HM likes them, Dave doesn't. Any thoughts on why or what for? __________________ Take the Speaker Voltage Test!

30th March 2009, 06:56 AM	#7
hm diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: near Hamburg Germany	Hello, i think the Manger is a nice driver for near field, up to 2 m max. and an educated ear and classic lovers, Today if i see the sound performance between Basstuba and Kornett, the cornet wins in Bass, in soundstage, size, if you stand up by listening, and $$$ __________________ http://www.hm-moreart.de


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29th March 2009, 10:40 PM	#6
Scottmoose diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK	I heard a pair a year or so back. Quite a pleasent sound, rather 'hifi'; they seemed to give the impression of being detailed, but when you started listening closely it all seemed a bit superficial to me, and dynamics, as Dave said, weren't anything to write home about. Not to my taste, although I can understand why some people like them. YMMV as ever.

30th March 2009, 09:46 AM	#8
Scottmoose diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK	Yes, I'd say you're probably right about them suiting nearfield listening & (lighter) classical Horst. Give them anything more demanding, or ask them some serious questions though & things start to look a little bleak. To each their own.

30th March 2009, 10:24 AM	#9
mteinum diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Flekkerøy, Norway	Great product photo, HM. Did you install that light inside the speaker permanent?

30th March 2009, 11:21 AM	#10
hm diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: near Hamburg Germany	Hello, yes, and light matches with the metal plate on the floor, 15 W lamp, look my avatar all with light today i would do it only with LED and batterie. __________________ http://www.hm-moreart.de

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