Parameters for Pioneer B20FU20-51FW

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Hard to say since the individual components are always being 'improved' by order of the 'bean counters' and retailers rarely bother to update their measurements like Eminence, JBL, etc., do. I mean I have measured specs from 10 yrs ago and they're not even close to the PE's, dictating a much smaller cab, so fortunately can be easily made to work with later driver's alignments, hence the specs that yields the largest cab are the ones I recommend since it's easier to shrink a cab than 'stretch' it. ;)

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The ML-horn started life as an OB with the B20's woofer variant filling the bottom end with a bit of added mass loading and a piezo horn nestled in the lee of the two in an absolute minimum driver spacing MTW. At apt./small room levels it was pretty impressive for the cost, but obviously there was only so much that could be done about the B20's basic mids/lower HF lack of high SQ resolution, so went for the low buck single driver in-room bass 'wow' factor plus piezo since it was for mostly '50s-60s DooWop, R&R, etc..

How'd it do in a Klam? I don't recall seeing any details/measurements of it.

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re:B20 in klam = same klam8 as this video loaded with Sammi - Sammi could take a bit more power - B20 sounded ok at 20-175 feet away - theres was about 10dB more noise available than what is in this video - I've measured these things
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znfE7hjQ40o

if one put B20 in a vented system it would blow the one out or modulate badly way before it ever reached these levels - although there's no low bass it sounds like theres some bass at high levels - klam small signal qtc could be set somewhere between 0.7 and maybe 1 - it'll change anyhow at large signal and voice-coil heating/
 
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Here's that curve for the Bu20Fu20

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freddi said:
re:B20 in klam..........

Sounds really bad, but then neither YouTube nor my computer sound system are remotely HIFI.

Yeah, BP4 can really play loud over a narrow BW, so could be a viable option in a multi-way system.

Right, Mike Bates? trashed me when I mentioned this on one of his threads, but a 1.0 Qtc K-BP4 with multiple drivers to keep thermal power compression low and with the right specs could theoretically have several octaves of gain BW, but all things consider, a TH with a K slot mouth might be a better choice overall. If I'm ever again able to do building/testing, this is high on my audio curiosity projects list.

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