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Old 4th February 2009, 10:34 PM   #11
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how would you propose to replace an accordion pleated paper surround?
Has anyone other than you noticed that the surround is part of the cone and can't just be replaced?
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sometime in the past - I was given with small amount of "black goo" , supposedly original JBL one - for treating pleated surrounds ;

friend who gave me that ( he didn't show me original bottle , so I don't know what's commercial name of goo) was/is in speaker repair business , and he also treated tired and semi-worn (integrated )paper accordion surrounds with same thing .

Cal - once I asked for help - I need to soften surrounds on old Philips 12" spks ;
they're treated with another sort of black goo , which became hard with time , not soft and sticky like on most pro drivers ......

any advice ( I can't find old thread ) ?

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tnx ;

good info
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Has anyone other than you noticed that the surround is part of the cone
apparently not

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and can't just be replaced?


or can they? let the game begin


Of course, I could be wrong, but even this reads as a treatment for foam or woven cloth, not paper surrounds:

http://legacysoundservice.com/catalo...oducts_id=1034

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or can they? let the game begin
Oh my, are there not enough legitimate tweeks? Must we now foray into that cauldron?

Ah well, it won't be me so go for it!
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Oh my, are there not enough legitimate tweeks? Must we now foray into that cauldron?

Ah well, it won't be me so go for it!

I see your ennui, and raise you a sarcasm and pair of battle fatigues
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Old 5th February 2009, 03:48 PM   #18
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Woven cloth surrounds...interesting seems like there is nothing to loose...unless it actually works ok as it is

Light rubber coating sounds viable too

But really maybe just a little "fast-glue" or maybe rubber stuff on just the cracks will do

Actually looks like the backside of surround is treated
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amount of "black goo" , supposedly original JBL one





the 'goo' for altec(s),

was 'Airflex 5100', by Air Products.

http://www.airproducts.com/index.asp


i've heard that they have another name/model number

for this sort of thing.

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