Short answer: I don't know. Longer answer: I have participated in what (as I keep pointing out) was technically a single-blind test, since the person who set it up knew which speaker was which. However, I was the only person in the room when I conducted the test, so it was effectively double-blind: description here.
I would add, I don't feel like a cardboard cutout, but then who knows what a cardboard cutout feels like.
Regards.
Aengus
Aengus-
Interesting stuff. It's not altogether clear to me where the eNable process starts and Planet10's cone 'pre-treatment' and other magic (treating basket, back of magnet, etc.) ends. If the only difference between the drivers was eNabling in its very precise geometric pattern, then that's quite a convincing demonstration.
I assume the towels were precisely matched as well....
Thanks for the link to your thread.
John
Interesting stuff. It's not altogether clear to me where the eNable process starts and Planet10's cone 'pre-treatment' and other magic (treating basket, back of magnet, etc.) ends. If the only difference between the drivers was eNabling in its very precise geometric pattern, then that's quite a convincing demonstration.
I assume the towels were precisely matched as well....
Thanks for the link to your thread.
John
G'day VictoriaGuy,
The information for treating drivers can be found in the EnABL - Listening impressions & techniques thread.
Some useful information regarding the planet10 treatment can be found here.
If you are keen to EnABL your drivers, have a look at Ed LaFontaine's EnABL kit.
The focus of this thread is applying EnABL to speakers cabinets - which is quite different to the process used on drivers.
Baffle EnABL is a great way to start because it's effective, completely reversible AND you don't need to modify your drivers - although you will want to once you hear what EnABL can do.
Once very important point - cabinet EnABL by itself can get you 70-80% of the EnABL effect.
Driver EnABL gives you something special that you just can't get with cabinet EnABL only.
When you utilise BOTH it takes your system to a level of audio reproduction that you would never have thought possible - have a look here and then read this.
Cheers,
Alex
The information for treating drivers can be found in the EnABL - Listening impressions & techniques thread.
Some useful information regarding the planet10 treatment can be found here.
If you are keen to EnABL your drivers, have a look at Ed LaFontaine's EnABL kit.
The focus of this thread is applying EnABL to speakers cabinets - which is quite different to the process used on drivers.
Baffle EnABL is a great way to start because it's effective, completely reversible AND you don't need to modify your drivers - although you will want to once you hear what EnABL can do.
Once very important point - cabinet EnABL by itself can get you 70-80% of the EnABL effect.
Driver EnABL gives you something special that you just can't get with cabinet EnABL only.
When you utilise BOTH it takes your system to a level of audio reproduction that you would never have thought possible - have a look here and then read this.
Cheers,
Alex
Victoria Guy -
If you're interested, I have no doubt that listening test(s) can be arranged in your local area. It could be left up to you to specify and organize the technical aspects.
Over the course of over 40yrs, including approx a decade in retail audio, and more recently the crazy world of DIY audio amateur fests and regional shows, I've participated in a range of listening "situations" to all kinds of gear and accessories, none of which would likely meet anyone's definition of "rigorously controlled double bind", etc. (most notably during the 70's & 80's afterhours sessions, where we certainly put the High in our fi )
If you're interested, I have no doubt that listening test(s) can be arranged in your local area. It could be left up to you to specify and organize the technical aspects.
Over the course of over 40yrs, including approx a decade in retail audio, and more recently the crazy world of DIY audio amateur fests and regional shows, I've participated in a range of listening "situations" to all kinds of gear and accessories, none of which would likely meet anyone's definition of "rigorously controlled double bind", etc. (most notably during the 70's & 80's afterhours sessions, where we certainly put the High in our fi )
I played with this yesterday.VictoriaGuy said:
used a untreated and a eNabled 127, and an untreated 108.
everyone could tell different drivers were playing, as far as I remember, everytime.
the subjective "what's better, what do you like part" was different.
the untreated 127 came in last, by everyone, everytime.
opinions varied on the 108, even by the same listener.
eNabled definitely sounded "different" though, even if it was subtle and could be discerned.
another "thing" we played with wasn't so subtle...
Greetings gentlemen! While you were in this thread, I was busy typing the summary where is here:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=137816
But I left out the EnABL part as Robert's summary below is spot on!
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=137816
But I left out the EnABL part as Robert's summary below is spot on!
G'day Matias,
It's easiest to use metric.
The calculator simply works out the block size based on the measurements you put in.
If you use inches, then you would have to input it as a decimal number (eg. 3/4" = 0.75, 1/8" = 0.125 etc) and then convert the decimal for the block size back to imperial.
Cheers,
Alex
It's easiest to use metric.
The calculator simply works out the block size based on the measurements you put in.
If you use inches, then you would have to input it as a decimal number (eg. 3/4" = 0.75, 1/8" = 0.125 etc) and then convert the decimal for the block size back to imperial.
Cheers,
Alex
Hello one and all, I was trying to come up with a quick and easy way to apply the pattern to my internal panels and was thinking of making a template out of thin cardboard or suitable material, cutting out the pattern and then using drywall plaster and a putty knife and do the pattern on my internal panels this way.
Does this seem like a good idea?
-andré-
Does this seem like a good idea?
-andré-
G'day andré,
A stencil is an idea I have had for some time.
I haven't tried dry wall plaster but it would be faster and easier to cover large panels.
However you do it, do try and keep the edges of the blocks as clean and sharp as possible.
Other than that, let us know how it goes and how it sounds.
A stencil is an idea I have had for some time.
I haven't tried dry wall plaster but it would be faster and easier to cover large panels.
However you do it, do try and keep the edges of the blocks as clean and sharp as possible.
Other than that, let us know how it goes and how it sounds.
Wait...
On the calculator the circumference of the baffle is also referred to as the perimeter of the baffle. The perimeter is 2 x width + 2 x height. This is not necessarily equal to 4 x width, as quoted, unless the baffle is a square. So which is it? 4 x width or the actual geometric perimeter?
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