Saburo question for Scottmoose and Dave

soundsinthestix · 7th January 2009, 02:21 PM

As I move into my second 100 hour phase of my Planet 10 FE126En Saburo's I have begun to bring friends and family in to be amazed by them. And amazed they are. However, one negative continues to come up.......the size. Now, I think the six foot tall cabinets are very elegant, and I do not have a wife to comment, but everyone else's concerns have got me thinking.

What about designing the two horn paths side by side? It would involve some redesign of the CC. The huge soundstage might be reduced some what. Less cabinet material would be used in the side and middle pieces (three 3ft pieces instead of two 6ft pieces).

The cabinet would then be slightly taller than 3ft and be approx one ft. wide (more of a traditional cabinet dimension). Would the sound be affected by the wider baffle? Would the double mouth opening at the bottom of the cabinet cause a problem?

Could this be the beginning of a "Sumo Saburo"?

Scottmoose · 7th January 2009, 03:08 PM

It would need a complete redesign -it's not just a case of folding them in half I'm afraid. Everything was optimised to the double-mouth configuration, so we'd basically be looking at an entirely new enclosure, from scratch.

TBH, if a DIY single horn for the 126 is needed there are several excellent examples already available, so I'd generally point you in the direction of the Frugel-Horn (if corners are available) or Ron's A126 if they are not.

soundsinthestix · 7th January 2009, 03:23 PM

Thanks Scottmoose........just another notch on my learning curve. I prefered the double mouth design anyway.

Scottmoose · 7th January 2009, 03:51 PM

Generally speaking, so do I. The size isn't to all tastes, but within reason, bigger is better, so I take that route with 80% of my cabinets.

ljk11 · 8th January 2009, 12:22 AM

but realistically, the extra height used would not be used for anything anyways, these cabinets dont have extra large footprint
so i think its just a cosmetic complaint because of the height

bigaudioscotto · 22nd January 2009, 08:45 PM

I have built the Saburos as well,
I am using longhair wool for dampening,
I need 1/2 inch wool felt ,just having trouble finding it,
any ideas .

soundsinthestix · 22nd January 2009, 08:52 PM

I didn't use felt. This speaker design does not require alot of dampening. I used a little polyfil (polyester pillow filler) teased out into a one half inch mat. I glued this to the back side of the compression chamber. Mine did not require any more than that.

bigaudioscotto · 22nd January 2009, 09:01 PM

I will give that a shot.
Thanks

7th January 2009, 02:21 PM	#1
soundsinthestix diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2007	Saburo question for Scottmoose and Dave As I move into my second 100 hour phase of my Planet 10 FE126En Saburo's I have begun to bring friends and family in to be amazed by them. And amazed they are. However, one negative continues to come up.......the size. Now, I think the six foot tall cabinets are very elegant, and I do not have a wife to comment, but everyone else's concerns have got me thinking. What about designing the two horn paths side by side? It would involve some redesign of the CC. The huge soundstage might be reduced some what. Less cabinet material would be used in the side and middle pieces (three 3ft pieces instead of two 6ft pieces). The cabinet would then be slightly taller than 3ft and be approx one ft. wide (more of a traditional cabinet dimension). Would the sound be affected by the wider baffle? Would the double mouth opening at the bottom of the cabinet cause a problem? Could this be the beginning of a "Sumo Saburo"?

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7th January 2009, 03:08 PM	#2
Scottmoose diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK	It would need a complete redesign -it's not just a case of folding them in half I'm afraid. Everything was optimised to the double-mouth configuration, so we'd basically be looking at an entirely new enclosure, from scratch. TBH, if a DIY single horn for the 126 is needed there are several excellent examples already available, so I'd generally point you in the direction of the Frugel-Horn (if corners are available) or Ron's A126 if they are not.

7th January 2009, 03:23 PM	#3
soundsinthestix diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2007	Thanks Scottmoose........just another notch on my learning curve. I prefered the double mouth design anyway.

7th January 2009, 03:51 PM	#4
Scottmoose diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK	Generally speaking, so do I. The size isn't to all tastes, but within reason, bigger is better, so I take that route with 80% of my cabinets.

8th January 2009, 12:22 AM	#5
ljk11 diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Port of Spain	but realistically, the extra height used would not be used for anything anyways, these cabinets dont have extra large footprint so i think its just a cosmetic complaint because of the height

22nd January 2009, 08:45 PM	#6
bigaudioscotto diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North Carolina,	I have built the Saburos as well, I am using longhair wool for dampening, I need 1/2 inch wool felt ,just having trouble finding it, any ideas .

22nd January 2009, 08:52 PM	#7
soundsinthestix diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2007	I didn't use felt. This speaker design does not require alot of dampening. I used a little polyfil (polyester pillow filler) teased out into a one half inch mat. I glued this to the back side of the compression chamber. Mine did not require any more than that.

22nd January 2009, 09:01 PM	#8
bigaudioscotto diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North Carolina,	I will give that a shot. Thanks

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