half chang or MLTL?

beauistheman · 15th December 2008, 08:54 AM

As above, using FE206E, which would give what sort of sound in comparison? Ive only heard the 206 in a bassreflex and i wasnt happy with the highs, not when i heard a smaller 16x series in a backloaded horn which provided very nice highs. So my question sits, and should i pair the 206 with a FT17H for the highs? or will using one of the above enclosures fix the lack of high note? Ofcourse using the BSC in the MLTL

Scottmoose · 15th December 2008, 10:02 AM

See my reply elsewhere. Cabinets do not improve HF. If a driver doesn't have any to start with, it's not going to get any whatever cabinet you drop it into.

beauistheman · 15th December 2008, 10:19 AM

yeah i read it, thank you for the explination. I guess then, what are the main differences between the ML TL design and the Half Chang, being that neither were designed for this driver. Im just not sure what to build...

Scottmoose · 15th December 2008, 10:22 AM

Well, might I suggest building something that is designed for for the 206?

Stuffing a driver into a cabinet that isn't intended for it is rarely a good idea.

The former will go a little lower; the latter will require less correction & throw a larger soundstage.

beauistheman · 15th December 2008, 10:26 AM

interesting, could you suggest anything that isnt too complex to build but has been designed for the 206e? Also, is it a good idea to pair this unit with a tweeter, or have you heard any that have used a tweeter?

Thanks for the help

Scottmoose · 15th December 2008, 12:04 PM

See my reply elsewhere. I've never felt the need, because I hate bright sounding systems. So no, personally, I wouldn't bother adding a supertweeter.

As for non-complex cabinets, assuming you actually have a pair of 206s, you've bought a driver specifically designed & intended for use in back-loaded horns, which by nature generally tend to be somewhat complex, and rather large. Depends on how big you can go (?)

beauistheman · 15th December 2008, 12:10 PM

size isnt much of an issue, as long as it can be moved through my house haha. I guess i could say id rather tall and deep than wide...but im really not fussed, i can fiddle with the looks to make them suit.

bluemartini · 15th December 2008, 12:13 PM

I originally used the 206E in MJK's MLTL with the recommended BSC circut. I then put them into the Half Chang's with a slight change to the BSC and like that setup much better. The Half Chang's gave better base. I have since moved on to MJK's Open Baffle project and this is even better.

beauistheman · 15th December 2008, 12:17 PM

Thanks for the response, the HC looks like an interesting build, but i think i will look at some more designs made for the 206 first before i make a decision.

Jim Shearer · 15th December 2008, 02:10 PM

If you don't mind it being large, then how about a BIB?

Cheers, Jim

15th December 2008, 08:54 AM	#1
beauistheman diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2008	half chang or MLTL? As above, using FE206E, which would give what sort of sound in comparison? Ive only heard the 206 in a bassreflex and i wasnt happy with the highs, not when i heard a smaller 16x series in a backloaded horn which provided very nice highs. So my question sits, and should i pair the 206 with a FT17H for the highs? or will using one of the above enclosures fix the lack of high note? Ofcourse using the BSC in the MLTL

15th December 2008, 02:10 PM	#10
Jim Shearer diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2007	If you don't mind it being large, then how about a BIB? Cheers, Jim __________________ A day without music is like a day without food.

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15th December 2008, 10:02 AM	#2
Scottmoose diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK	See my reply elsewhere. Cabinets do not improve HF. If a driver doesn't have any to start with, it's not going to get any whatever cabinet you drop it into.

15th December 2008, 10:19 AM	#3
beauistheman diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2008	yeah i read it, thank you for the explination. I guess then, what are the main differences between the ML TL design and the Half Chang, being that neither were designed for this driver. Im just not sure what to build...

15th December 2008, 10:22 AM	#4
Scottmoose diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK	Well, might I suggest building something that is designed for for the 206? Stuffing a driver into a cabinet that isn't intended for it is rarely a good idea. The former will go a little lower; the latter will require less correction & throw a larger soundstage.

15th December 2008, 10:26 AM	#5
beauistheman diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2008	interesting, could you suggest anything that isnt too complex to build but has been designed for the 206e? Also, is it a good idea to pair this unit with a tweeter, or have you heard any that have used a tweeter? Thanks for the help

15th December 2008, 12:04 PM	#6
Scottmoose diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK	See my reply elsewhere. I've never felt the need, because I hate bright sounding systems. So no, personally, I wouldn't bother adding a supertweeter. As for non-complex cabinets, assuming you actually have a pair of 206s, you've bought a driver specifically designed & intended for use in back-loaded horns, which by nature generally tend to be somewhat complex, and rather large. Depends on how big you can go (?)

15th December 2008, 12:10 PM	#7
beauistheman diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2008	size isnt much of an issue, as long as it can be moved through my house haha. I guess i could say id rather tall and deep than wide...but im really not fussed, i can fiddle with the looks to make them suit.

15th December 2008, 12:13 PM	#8
bluemartini diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: ohio	I originally used the 206E in MJK's MLTL with the recommended BSC circut. I then put them into the Half Chang's with a slight change to the BSC and like that setup much better. The Half Chang's gave better base. I have since moved on to MJK's Open Baffle project and this is even better.

15th December 2008, 12:17 PM	#9
beauistheman diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2008	Thanks for the response, the HC looks like an interesting build, but i think i will look at some more designs made for the 206 first before i make a decision.