Go Back   Home > Forums > Loudspeakers > Full Range
Home Forums Rules Articles Store Gallery Blogs Register Donations FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11th October 2008, 02:10 AM   #1
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Default RS100 pc speakers

I bought a pair of the 4 ohm RS100's for my truck, and have been playing around with them. As many know they are really pretty amazing considering the cost and size. I'm thinking of buying another pair for my computer "desk" which is really a wardrobe. Not much room to work with and it's kind of like a cave. I was running these OB on some scrap 1/4" plywood I had laying around.

The dimensions I have to work with are 19" high, approx 9 inches wide and maybe 8 inches +/- deep.

Right now I have them mounted OB on a 6" wide redwood fence board that I cut up. The baffle is way narrow. They look nice, as expected the bass response is almost non existent. It's temping to use the redwood as the face for a sealed or ported box of some type.

Any ideas?

Eric
  Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2008, 05:40 PM   #2
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
I think I have a bass reflex enclosure worked out. It models good in winisd.

I have a question about 1st port resonance. When is it too high or too low? I understand that the port will radiate at the first port resonance, but the port also filters midrange frequencies.

Would a 1st port resonance in the neighborhood of 450 hz cause problems?

I've read this driver sounds good in a bass reflex enclosure designed for the FE103E. The RS100 models with a huge bump at 100hz, around +6db. I played around with the numbers and came up with this.

.108 cubic feet
74hz
3.75 square inch port cross area
15.5" port length
1st port resonance is 436hz. (this is the number that worries me)

I sketched up some plans that give an overall enclosure size of 12.25x6x6 with a rectangular port exiting at the bottom that folds up along the back of the inside of the enclusure.

If I'm headed in the wrong direction, someone please correct me. I have the day off and was hoping to build these.

Eric
  Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2008, 06:08 PM   #3
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Here's a plot. Cone excursion and port velocity are also under control. Will attenuate sub 70 hz to control excursion at high volumes.

Click the image to open in full size.
  Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2008, 06:34 PM   #4
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
I'm going to pick up some wood. I designed it to be built from 6" wide lumber. Probably use mahogany or walnut. Probably not the ideal material, but I only have a junk contractors type table saw and from previous experience it's nearly impossible to rip long lengths accurately with the tools at hand. OK for a painted MDF box, but I refuse to use MDF anymore.
  Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2008, 08:51 PM   #5
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
I found a piece of 1x10x 10 foot piece of maple with a tiger pattern at the local HD supply. It's too nice to make a bad box so I've been experimenting with cardboard and various containers to see if I'm on the right track.
  Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2008, 11:54 PM   #6
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Built a sealed test enclusure at just over 2 liters. Just eyeballed the pieces when I cut them, so I'll have to get an exact measurement.

They sound decent. Bass drops off quickly starting around 200 hz, just like winisd says.


Using the frequency generator from winisd and my trusty Radio shack spl meter I've discovered a couple things.

First, I'm pretty much deaf above 14khz or so.

2nd, the driver has good response till 17khz when it tapers off. Over 10db down at 20khz according to my meter.

3rd, my left ear and right ear don't have the same response. I think I already knew this, I just have a better idea now of where the damage is.

I'm going to build a quickie bass reflex box with some more scrap wood, just to see if it's worthwhile proceeding as planned.
  Reply With Quote
Old 14th October 2008, 08:41 PM   #7
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Made a couple changes.

Upped the box volume to 4.4L.

Going to use 2 1" ports 4.75" long. At high listening levels port noise will be a problem, but these are PC speakers. Sitting in front of them with 7 watts going into them is uncomfortable. Port noise shouldn't be a problem until close to 20 watts.

I decided to keep the maple for some BIB's I'm planning for the living room.

Making these from poplar.

Also, for those without a circle cutting jig for your router, a 3" hole saw cuts the PERFECT circle for this driver.
  Reply With Quote
Old 14th October 2008, 08:47 PM   #8
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
I'm not sure how useful these graphs are, but here it is anyways.

Click the image to open in full size.
  Reply With Quote
Old 14th October 2008, 10:40 PM   #9
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Got one done. I have to say I'm very happy with the preliminary tests. Bass response is surprisingly good. 90hz is 6db down. From about 400hz up it's in the plus territory. Pretty much what I expected. It doesn't really follow the curve from WinISD, but the driver isn't broken in, and I don't have measurements from this driver. Response is virtually identical between the 2 though.

Anyways I'm really very pleased with the results. I'll have to experiment with stuffing a bit. Completely unstuffed now. A few minutes with Electri-Q should really clean it up.
  Reply With Quote
Old 14th October 2008, 10:58 PM   #10
diyAudio Member
 
gurley123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Sounds like your on the right track.

I'm glad someone has done something other than an OB with these.

Please post some pics if you get the chance.
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FS: (4) Dayton RS100-4s + (1) Dayton RS100-8 Fast1one Swap Meet 4 6th January 2010 11:32 AM
Dayton RS100-4 italynstylion Full Range 52 6th April 2009 12:56 AM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 04:24 AM.

Page generated in 0.11007 seconds (80.04% PHP - 19.96% MySQL) with 10 queries

Copyright ©1999-2012 diyAudio