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Old 18th September 2008, 07:57 PM   #1
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I am close to starting my build with some w4 1320's in a reflex box..

I was 100% going to flush mount as I read in places it is good for responce.. however some places say it is like the old expensive cable debate..

apart from this I think I actually prefer the look of a none flush mounted driver...

anyone got any opinons?
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Old 18th September 2008, 08:50 PM   #2
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Old 19th September 2008, 06:17 PM   #3
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What's the size of the Tangband?

If it has a round frame, the job will be easier than a square frame.

When going through this myself, GM advised that on small drivers
it's little more than an extra step.

I did my square framed FE127e's without a template and it's hard to get right free hand. But since I did nopt care fro the use of suprabaffles at all, you might want to try one with and one without.

Worst case is you can reverse the baffle and attempt a standard surface mount or finish off both.
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Old 22nd September 2008, 09:01 AM   #4
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they are 4" round so a lot easier than a square mount.. good point about turning the baffle over - - funny how the most obvious things escape me.
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Old 22nd September 2008, 03:07 PM   #5
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I've never heard a difference between flush mounted and surface mounted drivers because i never flush mounted any drivers.
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Old 22nd September 2008, 05:32 PM   #6
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I've never heard a difference between flush mounted and surface mounted drivers because i never flush mounted any drivers.
Your reasoning is sound.





My thinking on this is that the wider baffle width of the MLTL designs and by extension the BR box that the poster wants to make is a significant factor in sound propagation. The function of a suprabaffle
widens the radiating surface. In this sort of construction, the flush mount could (without any way for me to document it) enhance that element of sound reproduction.

This has to do with me using both MLTL and BIB in an asymmetric stereo pair. It gives direct evidence that the wider baffle MLTL tends to dominate the sound stage.
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Old 13th October 2008, 07:46 AM   #7
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Default Re: flush mount or not?

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Originally posted by needmorstuff
I am close to starting my build with some w4 1320's in a reflex box..

I was 100% going to flush mount as I read in places it is good for responce.. however some places say it is like the old expensive cable debate..

apart from this I think I actually prefer the look of a none flush mounted driver...

anyone got any opinons?
don't know if it is ok to recommend this since i'm kinda new, but the local wal-mart has a black and decker plunge router on sale for $35 that includes a guide/circle cutter.

trust me when i tell you that this is a steal! you won't need to buy one of those jaspers unless you cut something too small for it. and then you can buy a door lock cutter for a pittance instead.

use a #10 screw drilled into the wood for the circle cutter and carefully measure the extents of the radii of the circle before cutting.

piece of cake. do it outside to avoid the dust or use a shop vac.
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Old 14th October 2008, 03:51 PM   #8
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Not a fan of Walmart, but I did look to see if they showed any routers from B&D-- didn't see any.

What I used for flush mounting was one of those ziptools that comes in a kit. It has not only circle cutter but also the base of a router which is removable. This device is adequate for small jobs like
chamfering and rebating. The same kit has an adapter for use as a laminate trimmer.

It can be found under the house brand of tools called Tool Shop for Menards in US for the knock-off or the branded model at a Sears.

I have put off buying a router for a long time and have used this
hobby device for years.

But the router I think is of good value for features is this one:

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...7541000P?mv=rr

It should go on sale one of these days.
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Old 14th October 2008, 04:27 PM   #9
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Not a fan of Walmart, but I did look to see if they showed any routers from B&D-- didn't see any.

What I used for flush mounting was one of those ziptools that comes in a kit. It has not only circle cutter but also the base of a router which is removable. This device is adequate for small jobs like
chamfering and rebating. The same kit has an adapter for use as a laminate trimmer.

It can be found under the house brand of tools called Tool Shop for Menards in US for the knock-off or the branded model at a Sears.

I have put off buying a router for a long time and have used this
hobby device for years.

But the router I think is of good value for features is this one:

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...7541000P?mv=rr

It should go on sale one of these days.

you won't find this online at walmart. this is just what you need and for only $35, you can't go wrong with the guide/perfect circle cutter included for free!

http://www.blackanddecker.com/Produc...Path=1496.1507
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Old 14th October 2008, 08:13 PM   #10
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I've tried both ways and can't hear a difference.

A flange is what, 6mm at thickest on a heavy woofer?

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