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Old 18th September 2008, 06:47 PM   #1
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This Post is really directed to scottmoose and or Dave Planet 10
As you all probably know I have intended building the FE 126e Frugal horns for some time now but as my woodwork skills are well not good plus a lack of tools doesnít help is there a flat pack kit for these cabinets availably in uk by chance
REQIUERMENTS
Looking for a simple build with all internal cuts at 90 for cutting simplicity
With good imaging and good bass/mids scaling and voicing of instruments but not earth shaking low
MUSIC STYLES
Blues Jazz Folk
ROOM SIZE
15ftx10.5ft x7.8 ft
SPEAKER PLACMENT
Back wall firing across room
I have considered the BVRs for the FE126e
CONCERNS
bass levels
SABURO Too large
BRYNN, cabinet width and imaging plus Bass???
cabinet width and imaging
I welcome your inputs on this or have you any new simple cabinets for the FE126e to suite my room floor standing preferred but stand mounted would be ok as well
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Old 19th September 2008, 02:41 PM   #2
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Hi All
anyone got some thoughts on this Fe126e full range cabinets worth building or not
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Old 19th September 2008, 02:51 PM   #3
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I'm thinking the 126 is not an ideal driver for that kind of load. Looks like an Onken variation that's more complicated / less well braced than it needs to be. The 126 really does want to be horn loaded in some way. Distortion builds fairly gradually, but it can still do with all the help it can get.
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The 127 is probably the better choice between the two for that cab...

How about a BIB? http://www.zillaspeak.com/bib.asp Real easy build, and excellent sound for what it is.. If you end up not liking them, no biggie as they are not really complicated in the first place.. What amp are you driving your sound with? Dave
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Hi Scott
Yes it seems I canít find a descent simple to build cabinet for the FE126e as I or ready have the 126s I am trying to find some thing better as described in my first post on the BVRs you have designed most of the others seem to be for the 127e but at 91 db this bothers me a bit for low power valve amp
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They use the 127 because the 126 doesn't work in simple boxes all that well.
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Old 19th September 2008, 03:38 PM   #7
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Hi Dave/Scott
OK Amp s from say 2 watt up I was thinking of the Olivia Chang BVR with the my 126e in but it seem that the bass doesnít go to low about 70Hz I think in my room 15ftx10.5 ftx 7.9ft placed to back wall firing across room would improve the bass your views pleas
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Old 19th September 2008, 03:41 PM   #8
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The 126 will need substantial correction (series resistance if you don't have any means of active Eq) reducing sensitivity and raising excursion / distortion.
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If you already have the 126 driver's, then your not going to find anything other than a OB that is simpler to construct than a BIB cab.. I'd do a inverted 126 BIB and see how I liked it... Some(not all) of these cabs that are way more complicated ,are not really offering leaps and bounds of improvement over the BIB imo.. The talk of some ripple in the BIB's would be something you should check out for yourself.. For instance when mine were heard they went up against the Frugals and A126, and to my ears did very well in that company considering they were listened to outside, and not in the false corners as the others were, plus they were freshly built and the others had been highly tweaked over lots of listening time etc.. Inside, in or near corners ,they work very well btw... In any event the A126 or one of Scott's designs would be a better choice than the FH if you end up doing a more complicated build, as the FH suffers from one big drawback imo, but has mucho WAF... Dave
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OK yes with the 5R or lower??? Resistor in use with the Fe126e Drivers how well would this work in the Olivia and will it give a reasonably clean well defined bass for room size
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