Any experience stacking 2 small drivers ??

[norman bates]

Listening distance is 10' - 11'

I'd read of some liking the tangband elf kit (2 x w3-871s) without bsc, both run full range...........

I'm sure placing it against a wall would help mid / lows as would a small room................

2 stacked full rangers makes sense to me because it has double the area for same spl output, making the mids cleaner............

3lockbox had said don't but didn't say how far away he sat.
I can't see a problem sitting on axis 11' away.................

Some like the 4 x 4" square array, some don't, but review said 7' away from it was much better than closer on that arrangement.

I don't buy into the 1/2 wavelength ctc as I disliked 3' tall array of 1/2" tweets from 20-30' away............

I'm looking for more ouput without using a bigger driver or crossover (yuck) and some bass without midrange breakup.................

Experience ?
Opinion ?
Or bad idea or else we'd see more of it ?

Norman Bates

[TerryO]

You need to put them close to the wall if you don't have BSC, with the bonus of better bass. If they're going to be away from the walls, then put them into a bipole cabinet as it will basically avoid the complete Baffle Step problem.

The Elf design is a bit dated, there were several that came afterwards that were better, IMHO. The bipole designs became fairly popular after the original Elf was designed.

BTW: Make it easy on your self and your system and sit closer so the drivers don't have to work so hard, after all they're only 3 inch drivers.

Best Regards,
TerryO

[norman bates]

yea, I love the sound of them with an f-modded vega to fill in the bass...............

The tv is 11' from my head........

I love that stupid tang band though..............

I may pull the trigger on some of the peerless vlines, the ones with the copper cap...........

Then do shootout between peerless, tang band bamboo, tang band w3-871s, and some advent ict speakers.............Then sping for nice PE boxes..........

Or even a shootout comparing 2 drivers versus three of them, maybe even a 3" 4 speaker square array so I can say "yea I made it and this is what I think".

TerryO,
I've been impressed by your curved arrays.

I think 1 vertical row is better than 2 rows side by side though.
I have 9 of the 871s waiting for a builder, and then bring to a DiyIowa................maybe 9 of the peerless, pricy though.
someday.............

Bipole, hmm......I'd rather have twice the cone area firing at listening position. Maybe another day in another room........

Norman

[Brisso57]

Hi,

May I suggest a pair of CSS WR125ST's?
(I use a ribbon supertweeter also. Above them.)
cheers

Doug

[norman bates]

here is a nice review of a speaker with 2 full range 1052's
4" driver but 5" frame

omega minuet
http://www.dagogo.com/47LabGaincard-OmegaMinuet.html

"They’re toed-in slight to pretty much point at my head about 12’ back from the system.....You need to sit up straight and pay attention to hear all the details. I’m being pretty literal here… The Omega Minuets are very focused and have a very tight and specific sweet spot.....You stand up, the sound changes; you slouch on the couch and the sound changes. The sound becomes more diffuse, flatter and less airy as you move out of the vertical sweet spot. Horizontally it is sensitive as well, but not so much in the color of the sound as in the dimensionality and space."

I like the intelligibility of a full range driver with no crossover, I use another 12" for bass..................... and I use them 30% of the time for theater (low volume). I find that a lack of super highs is good for watching dolby digital's horrible high frequencies................

but nice pic there

Norman