Bandor 50 SW8 modules measurement - Page 2

jzagaja · 4th July 2008, 09:37 AM

There is small problem with comparison. Jordans have 2mm steel box with damping (baffle width half of Bandors). WIth Bandors mounted in cardboard box I simply hear something is wrong (rumbling) with Jordans around 1kHz. CSD doesn't show any problem. What is clear - highs are comparable and I prefer Bandors because they have a bass and I can listen them without bass support and any effort with pleasure. Jordans for the other hand are louder and without bass so listening is a bit fatiguing.

And what is really important with Bandors you can chose:

- surface finnish
- impedance
- copper or aluiminium coil (has influence on midrange)
- single or double wound (box type)

It is now easy to order them via PayPal but you have to wait a bit especially for 150mm unit because of metal parts supplier delays.

jzagaja · 4th July 2008, 10:03 PM

Jordan thanks to special cone cap illuminates room differently. On Bandors you'll get typical falling power response and percussion for example will be shy, hidden and sound a bit dark. See appended in room response. Jordans are also much louder.

oon_the_kid · 6th July 2008, 04:14 AM

So,

I take it the Jordans are a bit more lifely? From your description, but you actually prefer the Bandor? Since the treble is comparable, it is worthwhile looking into. what about the vocals, are they similar airiness?

Oon

oon_the_kid · 6th July 2008, 04:14 AM

Hi,

Just realised that there are a few models out there from the webpage. I assume you are using the 50mm driver. Which is the one you are having? Where did you buy it from, the website bandor.com too?

Oon

jzagaja · 6th July 2008, 09:40 AM

Bandor 50SW8 (single wound, copper coil, 8 ohms) is just smoother, darker more relaxing... and much cheaper. Vocals have mentioned airiness too. It reminds Manger transducer in tonality and imaging.

I have ordered Bandor 150 module. Fifties now gone to a friends.
Above module goes up to 10k. It's time to make ribbon modules for them.

The most funny thing with Bandors is that reviewers say that bass is deep but uncontroled and in the same time double bass (acoustic bass) sounds so natural.

jzagaja · 6th July 2008, 09:42 AM

I can send PayPal email account so you can easily pay. I bought directly from Doreen. Small shipping is 15 pounds for 50mm modules in EU countries.

graaf · 6th July 2008, 12:06 PM

sound of Bandors is often compared to Quad ESL
so I expect that this is not a typical "audiophile" sound of "boom boom - tss tss"

woody · 6th July 2008, 01:28 PM

How expensive are these and where can they be ordered?

jzagaja · 6th July 2008, 02:23 PM

We have paid 100 (50SW8 pair) + 17.50 VAT + 62.39 shipping = 185,89 pounds. This is twice as chap as Jordans. Standard letter.

If you'd like to buy just call Doreen (www.bandor.com), check if she can made them and if you like PayPal than I can send email of her niece to you - it should be quicker

(it took one year for me to order Bandors

inrank · 7th July 2008, 11:39 AM

Hi,

i am curently enjoying my Little Bandors, do you know if there is much difference with how the voice coil is wound and the material? as you said you have the 'single wound, copper coil' what are the options and what difference might they make?

I hear that the new neodymium magents are on order, sound interesting if the magent/frame is smaller to allow more air flow behind the driver.

also, how do people cope with the lobing when they have multiple units, like 2,4 or 8/16 etc? Or would a Bipole with two 8Ohm drivers be a better bet?

Regards

Inrank

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4th July 2008, 09:37 AM	#11
jzagaja diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Szczecin	There is small problem with comparison. Jordans have 2mm steel box with damping (baffle width half of Bandors). WIth Bandors mounted in cardboard box I simply hear something is wrong (rumbling) with Jordans around 1kHz. CSD doesn't show any problem. What is clear - highs are comparable and I prefer Bandors because they have a bass and I can listen them without bass support and any effort with pleasure. Jordans for the other hand are louder and without bass so listening is a bit fatiguing. And what is really important with Bandors you can chose: - surface finnish - impedance - copper or aluiminium coil (has influence on midrange) - single or double wound (box type) It is now easy to order them via PayPal but you have to wait a bit especially for 150mm unit because of metal parts supplier delays.

6th July 2008, 04:14 AM	#13
oon_the_kid diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2008	So, I take it the Jordans are a bit more lifely? From your description, but you actually prefer the Bandor? Since the treble is comparable, it is worthwhile looking into. what about the vocals, are they similar airiness? Oon

6th July 2008, 09:40 AM	#15
jzagaja diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Szczecin	Bandor 50SW8 (single wound, copper coil, 8 ohms) is just smoother, darker more relaxing... and much cheaper. Vocals have mentioned airiness too. It reminds Manger transducer in tonality and imaging. I have ordered Bandor 150 module. Fifties now gone to a friends. Above module goes up to 10k. It's time to make ribbon modules for them. The most funny thing with Bandors is that reviewers say that bass is deep but uncontroled and in the same time double bass (acoustic bass) sounds so natural.

6th July 2008, 09:42 AM	#16
jzagaja diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Szczecin	I can send PayPal email account so you can easily pay. I bought directly from Doreen. Small shipping is 15 pounds for 50mm modules in EU countries.

6th July 2008, 12:06 PM	#17
graaf diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2007	sound of Bandors is often compared to Quad ESL so I expect that this is not a typical "audiophile" sound of "boom boom - tss tss"

6th July 2008, 01:28 PM	#18
woody diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Tyrone Ga. U.S.A.	How expensive are these and where can they be ordered?

6th July 2008, 02:23 PM	#19
jzagaja diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Szczecin	We have paid 100 (50SW8 pair) + 17.50 VAT + 62.39 shipping = 185,89 pounds. This is twice as chap as Jordans. Standard letter. If you'd like to buy just call Doreen (www.bandor.com), check if she can made them and if you like PayPal than I can send email of her niece to you - it should be quicker (it took one year for me to order Bandors

7th July 2008, 11:39 AM	#20
inrank diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2005	Hi, i am curently enjoying my Little Bandors, do you know if there is much difference with how the voice coil is wound and the material? as you said you have the 'single wound, copper coil' what are the options and what difference might they make? I hear that the new neodymium magents are on order, sound interesting if the magent/frame is smaller to allow more air flow behind the driver. also, how do people cope with the lobing when they have multiple units, like 2,4 or 8/16 etc? Or would a Bipole with two 8Ohm drivers be a better bet? Regards Inrank