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Old 13th May 2008, 01:35 AM   #21
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Gychang, you used another bib enclosure for pioneer, much smaller, your impressions? Thanks
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Old 13th May 2008, 02:06 AM   #22
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Gychang, you used another bib enclosure for pioneer, much smaller, your impressions? Thanks

I built 2 BIBs, one for pioneer with dimensions mentioed above and the other with FE103 (smaller cabinet).

I was actually more impressed wtih the elcheapo (Pioneer) BIB.

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Old 13th May 2008, 01:20 PM   #23
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The size of a A11 BIB according to the spreadsheets is:
Driver Pio A11
Fs 70
Vas 0.31
Qts 0.35
Line Length 96.175
Folded Height 48.088
Vb 1.669
Sm 59.977
Depth 9.210
Width 6.512
zdriver 20.870
a-b-c 4.605

Cabinet
Wood Width 0.750
Outside Dimensions
Width 8.012
Depth 10.710
Height 48.838

Rounded Dimensions
Width 8.000
Depth 10.500
Height 49

Cut Boards Per Box
Front/Back 2 each
Width 8.000
Length 49.000
Sides 2 each
Width 9.000
Length 49.000
Slant 1 each
Width 6.500
Length 44.500
Bottom 1 each
Width 6.500
Length 9.000


Absolutely love my pair. They are built closer to the above dims. Definetely work good for heavier music.
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Old 13th May 2008, 01:44 PM   #24
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>>> A11 Rules! It's *******' $10

The BIB changes the rules when it comes to innexpensive drivers.
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Old 13th May 2008, 10:19 PM   #25
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Default A11 BIB

Zayne742,

Dish the dirt up man!

What kind of tweet, where's the x-over.

Don't just leave us hanging.......

Very creative suprabaffle man!

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Old 13th May 2008, 11:38 PM   #26
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John,
The tweeter is:

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=275-070

I believe that the crossover was a simple 1st order at 2.5k. That was dictated by the parts on hand. Have meant to go back and update. They sound decent, but a bit harsh in the mid, and a bit reserved at the top. My recent pair though, used:

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=297-416

Crossed these over closer to 10k. Much brighter sound, "more cowbell" on the top end. Due to the nature of the music they play, wanted a bit more aggression for the cymbols. Still 1st order cross. And, ran the tweet in reverse polarity. The HiVi set may work well with the A11. Also, A11's were treated with a couple coats of Damar.
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Old 14th May 2008, 01:40 AM   #27
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Thanks Zayne742,

I know this was OT, but at $10 ea. I've been looking for something to do with these speakers...

I was thinking more along the " Bullet Horn" tweeter line for myself....

John

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Old 14th May 2008, 12:47 PM   #28
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Was going to ask you the same. Joplin.
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Old 15th May 2008, 02:21 AM   #30
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MightyM,
If in the area, drop a line.

Gychang, with you on this project. Have 2 pairs of A11's collecting dust. My big quesion is, would it be worthwhile to re design the cabinet to have one of the vents, top or bottom, face opposite of the other. This would load the cabinet front and back, towards a wall or corner.? Scott or Dave hopefully can answer this. If it needs to be tested, would love to try it.
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