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otto88 13th December 2007 01:24 AM

Fostex ~ ping planet10
 
Hi,
Over the range 1 10 kHz (ie upper mids, & treble less the less part I cant hear), which of the current Fostexs (or other for similar $) would you say is best?

I want to get 100 dB so that rules out the FE103 (89 dB + continuous power only 5 watts).
Thanks

planet10 13th December 2007 04:23 AM

Re: Fostex ~ ping planet10
 
Quote:

Originally posted by otto88
Over the range 1 10 kHz (ie upper mids, & treble less the less part I cant hear), which of the current Fostexs (or other for similar $) would you say is best?
Ignoring below, an EnABLed FF85K might well be the leading candidate.

Quote:

I want to get 100 dB so that rules out the FE103 (89 dB + continuous power only 5 watts).
I hope you are not talking continuous levels. FE103 good for ~95 continuous, 105 peaks.

FE126 is probably the best compromise for that range, plus as loud as you'd like... the peaky bits need dealing with.

Do keep in mind that i never bother with stock drivers (except to use them to show how much potential there is in these beauties.

dave

simplymortified 13th December 2007 07:04 AM

Hi there, unless you want to spend a lot and get the FE-168EZ's (AU$240 each), the FE-167e (shielded driver) or FE-166e's have a good rep (both are AU$ 100 per driver). Both are 94db/w(m) with continuous power rated at 22 watts (peak 65). Fostex puts up box plans on there website as well which is rather handy.
Hope that helps, Good luck.

otto88 13th December 2007 07:23 AM

No, not talking continuous levels.
~95 continuous, 105 peaks would be fine. Does the FF85K have the same capability?

I haven't looked closely at Fostex power until lately. iirc the 103 has similar power ratings & sensitivity.
The FF85K specs say sensitivity of 88 dB, but the FR graph show that drops to 85 in the midrange.

Add 10 watts 'music power' to 85 gives about 94 dB.
Add 5 watts 'rated input'? to 85 gives about 91 dB.

Maybe I'm missing something (Fostex terms &/ or ratings are conservative?), but how do they achieve 95 continuous
Does the 103 sound better 1 - 10 kHz?

Thanks

planet10 13th December 2007 07:39 AM

you'd use the FF85K as a mid tweeter (say 500 Hz +) if you wanted it to play loud. But from there up it is pretty impressive.

The FE127 is pretty close in price to the FE103, i'd just step up to it.

What are you trying to do?

dave

planet10 13th December 2007 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by otto88
Add 10 watts 'music power' to 85 gives about 94 dB.
Add 5 watts 'rated input'? to 85 gives about 91 dB.
Add 4W to 85 dB you get + 6 dB = 91 dB
Add 10W to 85 dB you get +1- dB = 95 dB

Actually my max est with the FE103 should be ~101 dB (ie 16w gives 12 dB)

FE127e is 91 dB 15W cont, 45W peak = ~103 dB / 108 dB

FE126e is 93 dB 15W cont, 45W peak = ~105 dB / 110 dB

dave

otto88 13th December 2007 08:36 AM

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fyi ‘conventional’ drivers on the shortlist are

- the Seas 27TBFCG (Zaph’s favorite tweeter, Fs 550 Hz, can go to ~1450 Hz with a 4th order, $US 35)
- Peerless 810921 (“HDS”, Fs 600 Hz,$US 60)
- the Scan Speak 39 mm 3800 (Fs 450 Hz, can probably go to ~800/900 Hz with a 4th order) $US 145 probably only *if I could get a good deal

I recall very good wraps on the 166, the price & output are right, but wonder if the good sound/ $ is more for use as full rangers, down to ~100 Hz.
It seems for > 1 kHz, smaller drivers makes more sense?

Thanks

planet10 13th December 2007 09:02 AM

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Otto,

You are typing with high ASCII keys and it is making it hard for anyone not using the same computer platform as you to read your posts.

dave

planet10 13th December 2007 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by otto88
drivers on the shortlist
It seems for > 1 kHz, smaller drivers makes more sense?
Over time i have grown to dilike domes... the FF85k struck me as good enuff to give some seriously expensive dome tweeters a real run for the money, and with an Fs of ~125 Hz makes XO point pretty flexible... the Mark Audio J6 and the 50mm Jordan are likely up there too.

dave

Scottmoose 13th December 2007 09:10 AM

Keep in mind guys that medical research indicates that anything over 85db continuous over an extended period is going to cause permanent hearing damage.


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