Need cheap full range 5 inch

[Josh Lasserre]

Hello,

I want to make some voigt pipes and don't have enough dough for really nice drivers. Can you recommend voigt plans and a driver that is really affordable?

Thanks Josh

 

[vinylkid58]

Check out this cheap Pioneer 4.5" FR:

Pioneer A11EC80-02F

Classic Voigt like this: Single Driver Website

I think the box drawing is a little big for the Pioneer's Vas. Something like 60" tall with the driver at 30".

Maybe Scottmoose could fine-tune something for you.

Jeff

 

[Bluto]

Little Pio Driver

Hope someone chips in on this. As much fun as I've had with the Pio NSB's I've been wondering about trying this driver as well. It's got an even better frequency range plus better power handling. I think it would be ideal for little tranny lines or an OB in series.

Bluto

 

[Scottmoose]

Way too big for the Pioneer, and it's not a great box anyway. If I were you, I'd try to stretch to the FE127E, which is a very flexible unit & will work well in a range of cabinets. Without knowing what your budget it, we're shooting in the dark though.

 

[GM]

What we need is a USA Monacor importer. That, or some way to back door in some SPH-60Xs at the right price to replace the late, lamented 40-1354.

GM

 

[Scottmoose]

I was thinking something on those lines myself. The Monacor really is an excellent unit -for the price, you're laughing, but with the current exchange-rates, getting a pair from Europe would be a false economy for you guys. Surprising the US doesn't have distribution on Monacor products.

 

[GM]

Hmm, didn't think about that. Still, what comes close/bests in performance with similar specs for the same inflated price of the Monacor? BTW, what price would it be?

GM

 

[bassrogue]

The 4.5" Pioneer works well in the BIB cab. I built a pair a couple of months ago. They were a bit dark sounding at first but much better now. Waaaaay more bass than a driver that small should have.

 

[vinylkid58]

Hmm, didn't think about that. Still, what comes close/bests in performance with similar specs for the same inflated price of the Monacor? BTW, what price would it be?

After a quick look-see around the net I found BMM electronics in the Netherlands. Shipping is to Canada in our currency for 2 drivers:

Total goods
50.56

Credit card fee
3.02

UPS express saver 2.5kg
55.91

Total CAD
109.49

Jeff

 

[beeger]

Have you considered the GR Research M 130? Perhaps the efficiency isn't high enough, but the response sure looks flat and the one I heard had remarkable depth. You can find it here:
http://www.gr-research.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=110

I don't know about the bass tuning claims, haven't tried it.

 

[GM]

Hmm, I doubt they're that good. Thanks!

GM

 

[Kensai]

I'm using a pair of A11s for a system for a friend. First cab I built was a modified inverted BIB. All 4' lumber since my woodworking skills and tools are ridiculously limited, so just working within my limits. Got the usual 180 bend at the top then a pair of 90 bends at the bottom, the lowest going to the point and the higher one bending toward the mouth which is actually rear firing, and that gets me a line of around 102" (though all the folk who've built to design in the past, like gychang, have build 120" BiBs). Flat down to 50Hz and you can actually hear a solid 20Hz tone from them. Tried a slimmer, upfiring 4' BiB next which had no bass at all (think that enclosure volume was just too low), and then a basic BR cabinet built from some 8" sonotube and wooden end caps. The BR, when running manual tone sweeps was in fact getting more extension, but I think its ripple was even worse than the BiB. Couldn't hear any with the BiB, but with the BR, it was down earlier, then back up after the BiB was effectly rolled off, and then the 20Hz tone, while there and fairly loud was badly distorted. To make matters worse, the BR doesn't provide any gain through the LF, so it just sounded small and forward whereas the BiB was alot more balanced and sounded expansive. So, after much research and experimentation, I started work on the second large BiB cabinet for the A11 last night.

Kensai

 

[dmason]

Josh

Dont know what your budget is but I have a pair of unused Dave Merrill DCA 5.5 that are astounding in a BIB... which is where the first pair reside, thanks, Scott...

Read the glowing anecdotes on www.audioroundtable.com if you like. Also, there is a published FR plot which resembles that which I hear. These are serious drivers that were inexpensive. They are now Unobtanium.

Read about its little bro, the 4.5 on www.6moons.com look for Zigmahornet in Archives. The 5.5 is a rather large step up from the little 4.5... these are AlO3 ceramic coated Aluminum cones with phase plugs. Fs.50, Qts/.45, SPL/89db, Vas/11L, Power/50wpc RMS, they spec out quite nice for pipes and can play LOUD, with lots of great bass. I would love to see these go to a pipe/horn builder. Email me iffin you is intewested. I'll be back in the US in the next two weeks. 100 + shipping

 

[tweakk]

I'll take them if Josh doesn't....

New member so you have to contact me. Thanks!!!!

 

[gychang]

So, after much research and experimentation, I started work on the second large BiB cabinet for the A11 last night.

Kensai

A11 in Mikasa is getting much improved after several hours of listening, bass is very extended. Although it has been a while large BIB I had built may have had more bass.

If u don't mind could you post your build on a new thread?, which size/dimension are u using?, pictures if possible. I agree for the woodworking challenged (like most of us) BIB is the way to go. I wouldn't be too surprised my Mikasa has some air leak somewhere (still sounds good to me)

gychang

 

[gychang]

Dont know what your budget is but I have a pair of unused Dave Merrill DCA 5.5 that are astounding in a BIB... which is where the first pair reside, thanks, Scott...

I have a pair of DCA 4.5, don't have the specs but how would they work out on BIB?, dimensions?

 

[planet10]

Here are some real-world measurements.

dave

 

[gychang]

Here are some real-world measurements.

dave

I can figure out the Fs/Qts, but others are just numbers... This is very helpful, actual measurements, have BIB calculator on one of my PCs, thanks.

 

[GM]

Dave,

Cms appears to be off a few decimal places to ~match up to the other specs. Averaged specs with revised Cms in HR to calc Vas, BL:

GM

 

[c2cthomas]

I have a pair of DCA 4.5, don't have the specs but how would they work out on BIB?, dimensions?

Driver spec's for DCA 5.5 and DCA 4 from diy paradise
http://diyparadise.com/img/driver specs.pdf

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