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Old 23rd November 2007, 01:16 PM   #1
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Hi

I'm looking for the perfect Speakers to fit into the Corners of my room.

I'm really interested in Horns & Open Baffle, but I have no idea where to start looking??? All dealers seem to sell is conventional boxes.

My room is 6.5 x 5.5 metres, with a Ceiling height of 2.33M

It's fair to say that I can get away with murder with the missus, so size isn't really an issue.

I'm based in the North West of England, but do travel about a bit.

Where do I start?



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Old 23rd November 2007, 01:41 PM   #2
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A BIB.

http://www.zillaspeak.com/bib.asp
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Old 23rd November 2007, 01:55 PM   #3
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Thanks David

Some cool looking stuff on there. I'm certainly up for having a go at building the boxes, but it's the technical stuff I have no idea about.

Also, where can I get to hear some of these things? I don't want to buy bits & build them with no idea how they sound.

Also, how do I find out which design works best in corners?


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Old 23rd November 2007, 03:56 PM   #4
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Hi Ian,

You have mail.

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Old 23rd November 2007, 10:11 PM   #5
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Ian,

BIB satisfies a lot of your goals. BIG. Best in a corner, Max bass (at the expense of a bit of ripple).

And you are in a veritable hotspot of FR activity up there... Scott is the point man for the FR Mafia at your end of England. I'm sure he can get you started on listening to a few things. (They seem to have fairly regular small get togethers

You might want to get by Marc England's and listen to his FE207eN Curvy Changs. I'm guessing he is 50 miles closer to you than Scott.

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Old 24th November 2007, 10:01 AM   #6
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Thanks guys.

Yes, I'm gagging to hear some of these BIBs. So if anyone in UK could be kind enough to let me have a listen, I would be very grateful. They are certainly welcome to come & have a listen to my Tannoy FSMs

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A friend of mine collects a pair of Eminence Silver Iris OBs today & another mate is building a pair, so I'll be able to hear those.

Just need to find some BIBs so I can see which sound I prefer, then I'm ready to go.

I'm sort of hoping it's the BIBs, as a pair of those would look great in my room, but performance definitely comes first.


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They're certainly going to sound different, though oddly enough, the sonic traits of the BIB does give a touch of OB presentation. Why, I can't for the life of me figure out, as they are exact opposites in functionality, but there it is.

Whatever you do, there is no way on God's green Earth that any FR driver ever made is going to match the 4 15in cones a pair of those Tannoys can muster on the LF dynamic front, but you should get some gains elsewhere. In your position, I'd probably be inclined to get hold of a pair of FE206Es (then modify the hell out of them) or if you're feeling richer, FE208ESigmas and an appropriate supertweeter, and stuff them into full-sized pipe-horns. Like the attached.

There are more advanced builds too of course, but as an initial step into the world of DIY speakers, these are hard to beat. Many people never find a reason to go any further.
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Old 24th November 2007, 05:12 PM   #8
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A friend of mine collects a pair of Eminence Silver Iris OBs today & another mate is building a pair, so I'll be able to hear those.
Just to be clear... these are Hawthorne Silver Iris... the OEM is Eminence. They are very much Darryl's driver.

A lot of people really like these.

In my 1st exposure to these i was not all that impressed... big dynamic, but lacking in the mids. The new XO helped but didn't bring the critical mids up to the level of say a Visaton B200 (and far short of a Fonken). I am going to get another chance -- 2 sets are on there way here for EnABLing (then 1 set off to Germany and the other back to Hawthorne for evaluation.

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My suspicion is that it'll always stuggle. I can't remember the XO point offhand, but getting a 15in cone up past 500Hz with any genuine grace is a very big ask. The only thing I've heard do a reasonable job in this respect are big Tannoys, ironically enough, and even they suffer from having an XO slap-bang in the middle of our most sensitive hearing region.
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My suspicion is that it'll always stuggle. I can't remember the XO point offhand, but getting a 15in cone up past 500Hz with any genuine grace is a very big ask.
A Llambda Apollo (or its ilk) might. The Tannoy is XOed at 1kHz. The SI 2.5>3.5k i believe.

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