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Old 7th November 2007, 01:28 PM   #1
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Question DIY On-Wall Full Range Speaker?

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I'm looking to build some speakers so I can move my hifi setup into the living room. However due to small inquisitive fingers, limited space and the dreaded wife acceptance factor I'm having to consider my designs carefully. Therefore I've been thinking of an on-wall full-range design, the simplicity of using full-range drivers appeals to me for my first DIY speaker. However I'm having difficulty finding any DIY designs, I've found plenty of commercial two-way offerings but nothing in the way of a full-range DIY design. I have come across Cornu spiral horn clones, but the build process looks rather too complex to undertake as a first attempt, not to mention the rather scant details on dimensions etc.

So I guess my question is, do any DIY on-wall full-range speaker designs exist? Or if not would there be a way to modify existing DIY full-range designs to become on-wall designs?

Any help/advice/suggestions would be welcome.

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Old 7th November 2007, 02:35 PM   #2
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Old 7th November 2007, 02:48 PM   #3
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Hi Ewan

I remember times, when home hifi was young, many speakers with 'flat' enclousures suitable for hanging on a wall were available.

I remember some models of the german manufacturer HECO e.g. - to name only one. These were mostly 2- or 3-way speakers. Closed boxes with much damping material in it.

I think it is not difficult to make also a BR box with a tuned port if you take the volume of a proven design and change the proportions in a way to make it more wide and less deep.

The Cornu speakers (I had these for years) are something different. You have a very small fullrange driver which is a kind of tweeter but on the other hand brings a lot of bass - because of the special enclosure.

It makes not much sense to try to copy this speaker, because it is not easy to built. Daniel Ciesinger has the know-how and the speaker is not very expensive if you buy one of him.

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Old 7th November 2007, 03:19 PM   #4
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Hi Johannes,

I know your probably interested in making your own speakers, but I have seen some successful installations of Magnepan's mmg's and 1.6QR's mounted like a picture frame with good success. There are a variety of wall mounting options with the Maggie's.

Just another idea to think about.

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Old 7th November 2007, 03:40 PM   #5
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How is your wall constructed? How about a pair of Visiton B200's mounted right in the wall, infinite baffle style? The Qts should lend itself perfectly. Monacor might have something that would work for even less $$. That seems to be the simple solution. Depending on your needs and desires, I can think of plenty of more complicated options. If you have a way to do it (wall will allow), how about some IB subs? You'd have to have plenty of space behind them, and something sturdy to hook them too.

Oops, as I re-read, I see on-wall. I was thinking in-wall. There are plenty of slim T-line designs that can be set right up against a wall or bolted to it. How slim do you want them to be? Have you been through Dave's box plan library? Would you consider one of the smaller BIB's tossed into the corners? They don't take up much space that way.

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Old 7th November 2007, 03:40 PM   #6
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I know your probably interested in making your own speakers
Hi David,

Yes, this is true.

I am very happy with what I have achieved with the Greencones in my special resonant enclousures after some years of experimenting with it.

I have also had different electrostatic speakers before. All of them had to stand free. So it is hard to believe for me to see such a speaker being mounted near to a wall. But I must admit, I did not try... ;-)

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Old 7th November 2007, 03:56 PM   #7
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Have a look at these, they are on wall 2 ways but the construction may spark some ideas with you.

http://www.zaphaudio.com/audio-speaker20a.html
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Old 7th November 2007, 05:23 PM   #8
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Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the replies so far.

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Pjanda1: There are plenty of slim T-line designs that can be set right up against a wall or bolted to it. How slim do you want them to be? Have you been through Dave's box plan library? Would you consider one of the smaller BIB's tossed into the corners? They don't take up much space that way.
Unfortunately the corners are already occupied, and floorstanding speakers would just be a temptaion to the little person to bash, poke and topple over.

In terms of dimensions, possibly probably get away with something in the region of 150mm deep, 400 - 500 mm in height, and 300mm wide.

I've seen the box plan library on Dave's site, plenty of nice looking designs and ideas, it's just knowing which of them would be suitable for on-wall mounting either as they are or with modifications.

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Old 7th November 2007, 06:45 PM   #9
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Maybe a possibility? Good luck with this!

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Old 7th November 2007, 07:01 PM   #10
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Hi Stee-B,

Thanks for the link, looks like one of the most promising designs I've seen yet.

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