New flat pack horn kit for FE206E from Madisound

BHD · 30th October 2007, 02:17 PM

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/pro...oducts_id=8282

Seems pretty reasonably priced. Any opinions?

Scottmoose · 30th October 2007, 03:04 PM

Ah, ye trad BK20 has surfaced again. No bad thing. Predates the existing stepped boxes IIRC; I don't rate the 206 cabinet; the BK is probably better. Those wanting a horn kit for the 206 could do worse.

BHD · 30th October 2007, 07:00 PM

I know you're not fond of the factory recommended FE206E cabinets, but given the choice between the Madisound cabinets and the FE208E Sigma cabinets, which would you choose?

Scottmoose · 30th October 2007, 07:50 PM

For the 206 / 208ESigma? The Sigma enclosure would be my choice. It's a lot larger though.

vitalstates · 30th October 2007, 08:08 PM

I don't know what the basic price is for BB in the states but that looks like VFM when you look at UK prices.

Scottmoose · 30th October 2007, 10:30 PM

That it does. Ply is ludicrously expensive over here, assuming you can find any worth having. How many trips did it take you to find material you were happy with for my cabinets Ed? About three wasn't it?

blumenco · 31st October 2007, 08:38 AM

I think that this setup would sound killer. get a decent 2a3, px 25, or el34 SET amp and music will ooze from these.

there will be a decent amount of midrange from the port. good thing, bad thing. definitely in the realm of very high efficiency/ true horn speaker.

you will want to set them up in a decently sized room, but in a relatively close array. think 9 to 5 feet from the speaker, with equilateral triangle setup.

drivers pointed straight at ya, no need for a tweeter. it is a geeky system. meant to create a single area of bliss. totally selfish, these large full rangers are...

be careful on the torque of the driver mount screws.

break em in a plenty (about a year and a half...)

it will likely only need a small 6 inch circle of quilt batting right behind the magnet. maybe a small strip at the bottom of the first curve.

I have had some 206e around for a while in a PA system. also, I have tried them out in almost every 8 inch enclosure I have built. the 206e is a work of art, needs proper harnessing though.

the bk20 is the first enclosure I know of within the cheaper realm which will actually likely get all the best points of the 206 across. the 208 in the same enclosure? eh... might be a little too much driver for the cab. think of it like cain and cain abby's with the 168EZ. it sounds great, but in the end the 166e is just a better driver in that application.

forget correction networks. the fostex stuff is inherently too refined within its own paradigm for that. correction networks are for other drivers. the 206e begs to be put in a restrictionless and slightly underdamped back horn. especially one that is NOT triple thickened side walls and 250 lbs a piece. the woods needs to give a little tone in this application. the strike panels in the bk 20, the thickness of the wood and the fact that it is relatively UN-reinforced is a good thing here.

they will sound tonal, detached, and sarcastically dynamic.

gangsta!

Clark

maxdd_nj · 31st October 2007, 04:46 PM

Is that priced per-cabinet?

mp9 · 31st October 2007, 09:07 PM

what do you guys think about putting a pair of 166es-r's in these bk20's?

defect9 · 1st November 2007, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxdd_nj
Is that priced per-cabinet?

yes, that is per cabinet price

30th October 2007, 02:17 PM	#1
BHD diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Brooklyn Park, MN	New flat pack horn kit for FE206E from Madisound http://www.madisound.com/catalog/pro...oducts_id=8282 Seems pretty reasonably priced. Any opinions? __________________ My religion is the golden rule. The only time it's forsaken me is when I've forsaken it first.

30th October 2007, 07:00 PM	#3
BHD diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Brooklyn Park, MN	I know you're not fond of the factory recommended FE206E cabinets, but given the choice between the Madisound cabinets and the FE208E Sigma cabinets, which would you choose? __________________ My religion is the golden rule. The only time it's forsaken me is when I've forsaken it first.

31st October 2007, 08:38 AM	#7
blumenco diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Seattle	I think... I think that this setup would sound killer. get a decent 2a3, px 25, or el34 SET amp and music will ooze from these. there will be a decent amount of midrange from the port. good thing, bad thing. definitely in the realm of very high efficiency/ true horn speaker. you will want to set them up in a decently sized room, but in a relatively close array. think 9 to 5 feet from the speaker, with equilateral triangle setup. drivers pointed straight at ya, no need for a tweeter. it is a geeky system. meant to create a single area of bliss. totally selfish, these large full rangers are... be careful on the torque of the driver mount screws. break em in a plenty (about a year and a half...) it will likely only need a small 6 inch circle of quilt batting right behind the magnet. maybe a small strip at the bottom of the first curve. I have had some 206e around for a while in a PA system. also, I have tried them out in almost every 8 inch enclosure I have built. the 206e is a work of art, needs proper harnessing though. the bk20 is the first enclosure I know of within the cheaper realm which will actually likely get all the best points of the 206 across. the 208 in the same enclosure? eh... might be a little too much driver for the cab. think of it like cain and cain abby's with the 168EZ. it sounds great, but in the end the 166e is just a better driver in that application. forget correction networks. the fostex stuff is inherently too refined within its own paradigm for that. correction networks are for other drivers. the 206e begs to be put in a restrictionless and slightly underdamped back horn. especially one that is NOT triple thickened side walls and 250 lbs a piece. the woods needs to give a little tone in this application. the strike panels in the bk 20, the thickness of the wood and the fact that it is relatively UN-reinforced is a good thing here. they will sound tonal, detached, and sarcastically dynamic. gangsta! Clark __________________ www.blumensteinaudio.com Blumenstein Audio - Handmade High Efficiency Full Range Single Driver Speakers from Seattle, USA Since 2006

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30th October 2007, 03:04 PM	#2
Scottmoose diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK	Ah, ye trad BK20 has surfaced again. No bad thing. Predates the existing stepped boxes IIRC; I don't rate the 206 cabinet; the BK is probably better. Those wanting a horn kit for the 206 could do worse.

30th October 2007, 07:50 PM	#4
Scottmoose diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK	For the 206 / 208ESigma? The Sigma enclosure would be my choice. It's a lot larger though.

30th October 2007, 08:08 PM	#5
vitalstates diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: uk	I don't know what the basic price is for BB in the states but that looks like VFM when you look at UK prices.

30th October 2007, 10:30 PM	#6
Scottmoose diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK	That it does. Ply is ludicrously expensive over here, assuming you can find any worth having. How many trips did it take you to find material you were happy with for my cabinets Ed? About three wasn't it?

31st October 2007, 04:46 PM	#8
maxdd_nj diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: nj	Is that priced per-cabinet?

31st October 2007, 09:07 PM	#9
mp9 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2006	what do you guys think about putting a pair of 166es-r's in these bk20's?

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