AER loudspeaker manufacture

Jaime · 16th September 2007, 07:43 PM

There are two AER manufactures :
“AER Loudspeaker” and “AER Loudspeakers”
http://www.aer-loudspeaker.com/
http://www.aer-loudspeakers.com/

Someone can explain?
Which is the authentic AER loudspeaker?

Best regards Jaime

tinitus · 16th September 2007, 09:10 PM

http://www.bd-design.nl/index1.html

look under "diy drive units"

You could say that the other appear to be ok too... but in the light of doing what they do it is very questionable if their quality nor specs are reliable at all
But their site does look very impressive, but you know much of it can be "borrowed" too...does look like quality, but who knows what they actually deliver, when it comes to that

Cal Weldon · 16th September 2007, 10:42 PM

Both based in Stuttgart too.

KSTR · 16th September 2007, 11:17 PM

This is a very sad story. Each of them seems to accuse the other of plagiarism and claims to be the original inventor/manufacturer... civil action seems to be going on... at least from one side.

Now we have this:
http://www.aer-loudspeakers.com/eng/rebuild-e.htm

versus that:
http://www.bd-design.nl/contents/en-...ive_Units.html

Houston, we've got a problem...

OzMikeH · 17th September 2007, 01:39 AM

I'm more inclined to believe Bert Doppenberg.
A German friend of mine bought drivers from him rather than from Germany. I have seen and heard the drivers. If they are fake I'll eat my hat.

tinitus · 17th September 2007, 10:17 AM

I did at some point actually think of an X-partner "thing"

So its really not a copy like BD claims ... question is if one is better than the other ... sounds more like ugly business... and us being hostage

DUC985 · 18th September 2007, 06:52 AM

better stay away from AER. Nobody knows what is real and what is fake. If you ask three insiders in Germany you get five answers.
Both of them always refused to offer measurements of their drivers.
For that amount of money they charge, better go for a Lowther. You know what you get and since they use the rolled whizzer cone they are a lot better than in the past.

Nelson Pass · 19th September 2007, 08:22 PM

Considering that the AER is a "Lowther made by Germans", it's
ironic. I did have a genuine AER loaned to me by a generous
Korean DIYer, and I have to say it lived up to the description.

tinitus · 19th September 2007, 09:03 PM

mr. Pass, you are a true (zen)master

OzMikeH · 20th September 2007, 11:23 AM

If anyone has these drivers it would be most helpful if you could send some detailed close up pictures and tell us which AER you got them from.

It will soon become apparent which are the fakes, perhaps they will both be good.

16th September 2007, 07:43 PM	#1
Jaime diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Montevideo	AER loudspeaker manufacture There are two AER manufactures : “AER Loudspeaker” and “AER Loudspeakers” http://www.aer-loudspeaker.com/ http://www.aer-loudspeakers.com/ Someone can explain? Which is the authentic AER loudspeaker? Best regards Jaime __________________ I write in English worse than Tarzan

16th September 2007, 10:42 PM	#3
Cal Weldon Speakerholic diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: British Columbia	Both based in Stuttgart too. __________________ Next stop: Margaritaville Some of Cal's stuff \| Cal Weldon Consulting

17th September 2007, 01:39 AM	#5
OzMikeH diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2007	I'm more inclined to believe Bert Doppenberg. A German friend of mine bought drivers from him rather than from Germany. I have seen and heard the drivers. If they are fake I'll eat my hat. __________________ Help some guys with funny hair bang two rocks together really hard. http://athome.web.cern.ch/athome/LHCathome/whatis.html

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16th September 2007, 09:10 PM	#2
tinitus diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005	http://www.bd-design.nl/index1.html look under "diy drive units" You could say that the other appear to be ok too... but in the light of doing what they do it is very questionable if their quality nor specs are reliable at all But their site does look very impressive, but you know much of it can be "borrowed" too...does look like quality, but who knows what they actually deliver, when it comes to that

16th September 2007, 11:17 PM	#4
KSTR diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Central Berlin, Germany	This is a very sad story. Each of them seems to accuse the other of plagiarism and claims to be the original inventor/manufacturer... civil action seems to be going on... at least from one side. Now we have this: http://www.aer-loudspeakers.com/eng/rebuild-e.htm versus that: http://www.bd-design.nl/contents/en-...ive_Units.html Houston, we've got a problem...

17th September 2007, 10:17 AM	#6
tinitus diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005	I did at some point actually think of an X-partner "thing" So its really not a copy like BD claims ... question is if one is better than the other ... sounds more like ugly business... and us being hostage

18th September 2007, 06:52 AM	#7
DUC985 diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NRW	better stay away from AER. Nobody knows what is real and what is fake. If you ask three insiders in Germany you get five answers. Both of them always refused to offer measurements of their drivers. For that amount of money they charge, better go for a Lowther. You know what you get and since they use the rolled whizzer cone they are a lot better than in the past.

19th September 2007, 08:22 PM	#8
Nelson Pass The one and only Join Date: Mar 2001	Considering that the AER is a "Lowther made by Germans", it's ironic. I did have a genuine AER loaned to me by a generous Korean DIYer, and I have to say it lived up to the description.

19th September 2007, 09:03 PM	#9
tinitus diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005	mr. Pass, you are a true (zen)master

20th September 2007, 11:23 AM	#10
OzMikeH diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2007	If anyone has these drivers it would be most helpful if you could send some detailed close up pictures and tell us which AER you got them from. It will soon become apparent which are the fakes, perhaps they will both be good.

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