Curvy Chang thread - Page 38

jrevillug · 20th November 2007, 04:32 PM

Thanks for the info Marc. They look really nice- I love the speaker terminals in the treble clef.

james

marce · 22nd November 2007, 02:31 PM

Still buzzing.
Still amazed.
Basicly go home from work pick 2 or 3 CD's sit down, enjoy cd's from begining to end, go to bed, get up go to work, begin again.
Films also sound incredable through EnABLed drivers, hope to have a full Cury Chang based HT within a few months.

MJL21193 · 22nd November 2007, 04:24 PM

Looking very good Marc.

The paint can drive one crazy, that I know. Excellent work though. I bet they sound great, I might be turned yet from the dark side.

BTW, what's that crazy pattern on the Fostex??

marce · 22nd November 2007, 04:35 PM

Hi John,
they do sound great.
The paint job is on hold till I can spray them, theres just to much area. I'm a bit miffed with my veneer finish as well, its had 9 coats of Plastic Coating, and when I rub it back I get a nice matt, flat finish, then when I buff it up distant images are distorted as the coating seems to have slight waves in it, looks like more coats and more rubbing down, i'll leave that till the weathers a bit better and I do the spraying.
I think the crazy pattern is called EnABL, i belive there may be a smallish thread on it somewhere

Gutted that I havn't yet got a finish anywhere near you 3-ways yet, but I am persistent so hopefully one day.

MJL21193 · 22nd November 2007, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by marce

I'm a bit miffed with my veneer finish as well, its had 9 coats of Plastic Coating, and when I rub it back I get a nice matt, flat finish, then when I buff it up distant images are distorted as the coating seems to have slight waves in it, looks like more coats and more rubbing down, i'll leave that till the weathers a bit better and I do the spraying.

The waviness might be due to how the veneer was glued. The smallest defect will telegraph through when you go high gloss. It was my original intention to do the same gloss on the veneered parts of mine, but even though this was factory applied veneer, it was still not good enough.
I ended up cutting back the gloss to a smooth satin, that IMO, looks more refined anyway. Also makes a nice contrast.

chrisb · 22nd November 2007, 07:28 PM

John- there are certainly some things on which we can agree - gloss on veneer among them.

Among the products displayed by a local hi-end audio shop are the AudioNote speakers. Leaving aside the question of their performance/value, the finish on some of the higher end models is for my taste most unfortunate.

A wide selection of veneers are available, some quite highly figured (maple & poplar burl) and containing marked colour contrasts (Rosewood)

http://www.audionote.co.uk/products/...neers_01.shtml

But the higher end models are finished with what appears to be at least 1/8" thick crystal clear polyurethane top coat. While this may very well contribute to stiffening of the enclosure, which is certainly not over-braced internally, the cosmetic result with some of the lighter species is a very cold, artificial look. Honestly, the "cheap" (oops, "Level 1") AudioNote vinyl wrapped boxes look more real.

I guess at the multi-decade kilobucks stratosphere inhabited by these products, one needn't worry about marring the finish with inappropriately placed flower vase, Bud can or pizza box.

By contrast, the finish on the Sonus Faber Elipsa in the same showroom is a glorious statement in "just right"

marce · 23rd November 2007, 09:14 AM

I think that is the problem, its so irritating as you cant actualy feel the bumbs and close up (ie when I did the buffing) it looks OK. Trouble is they sit opposite the window so in a morning all I can see are wavy reflections Arghhhhh!!!!!

So i think I'll follow your advice John and Chris and cut them back to a satin finish.
The finish I have used is a plastic based finish, but can be finished in a variety of ways.
I do concur with your view Chris, the finish looks cheap, I've used french polish in the past a lot and get a much richer finish.
So nest time the drivers are out it a good rub down (iron wool though not iron Michelle

Cheers Chaps

abpea · 26th November 2007, 01:21 PM

Hey marce,

Anymore updates on how the Curvy Chang's are sounding?

Thanks -
Bruce

planet10 · 26th November 2007, 06:13 PM

Marc has been quiet... i imagine him sitting with a pleased smile on his face, CD cases scattered all about...

dave

abpea · 26th November 2007, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by planet10
Marc has been quiet... i imagine him sitting with a pleased smile on his face, CD cases scattered all about...

dave

I was thinking the same thing Dave. The Curvy Changs must sound really - really - good to keep him away from the computer keyboard this long!

Bruce

22nd November 2007, 07:28 PM	#376
chrisb diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: victoria BC	John- there are certainly some things on which we can agree - gloss on veneer among them. Among the products displayed by a local hi-end audio shop are the AudioNote speakers. Leaving aside the question of their performance/value, the finish on some of the higher end models is for my taste most unfortunate. A wide selection of veneers are available, some quite highly figured (maple & poplar burl) and containing marked colour contrasts (Rosewood) http://www.audionote.co.uk/products/...neers_01.shtml But the higher end models are finished with what appears to be at least 1/8" thick crystal clear polyurethane top coat. While this may very well contribute to stiffening of the enclosure, which is certainly not over-braced internally, the cosmetic result with some of the lighter species is a very cold, artificial look. Honestly, the "cheap" (oops, "Level 1") AudioNote vinyl wrapped boxes look more real. I guess at the multi-decade kilobucks stratosphere inhabited by these products, one needn't worry about marring the finish with inappropriately placed flower vase, Bud can or pizza box. By contrast, the finish on the Sonus Faber Elipsa in the same showroom is a glorious statement in "just right" __________________ you don't really believe everything you think, do you? community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com commercial site planet10-HiFi

26th November 2007, 06:13 PM	#379
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20th November 2007, 04:32 PM	#371
jrevillug diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2006	Thanks for the info Marc. They look really nice- I love the speaker terminals in the treble clef. james

22nd November 2007, 02:31 PM	#372
marce diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Blackburn, Lancs	Still buzzing. Still amazed. Basicly go home from work pick 2 or 3 CD's sit down, enjoy cd's from begining to end, go to bed, get up go to work, begin again. Films also sound incredable through EnABLed drivers, hope to have a full Cury Chang based HT within a few months.

22nd November 2007, 04:24 PM	#373
MJL21193 Account disabled at member's request Join Date: Mar 2007	Looking very good Marc. The paint can drive one crazy, that I know. Excellent work though. I bet they sound great, I might be turned yet from the dark side. BTW, what's that crazy pattern on the Fostex??

22nd November 2007, 04:35 PM	#374
marce diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Blackburn, Lancs	Hi John, they do sound great. The paint job is on hold till I can spray them, theres just to much area. I'm a bit miffed with my veneer finish as well, its had 9 coats of Plastic Coating, and when I rub it back I get a nice matt, flat finish, then when I buff it up distant images are distorted as the coating seems to have slight waves in it, looks like more coats and more rubbing down, i'll leave that till the weathers a bit better and I do the spraying. I think the crazy pattern is called EnABL, i belive there may be a smallish thread on it somewhere Gutted that I havn't yet got a finish anywhere near you 3-ways yet, but I am persistent so hopefully one day.

23rd November 2007, 09:14 AM	#377
marce diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Blackburn, Lancs	I think that is the problem, its so irritating as you cant actualy feel the bumbs and close up (ie when I did the buffing) it looks OK. Trouble is they sit opposite the window so in a morning all I can see are wavy reflections Arghhhhh!!!!! So i think I'll follow your advice John and Chris and cut them back to a satin finish. The finish I have used is a plastic based finish, but can be finished in a variety of ways. I do concur with your view Chris, the finish looks cheap, I've used french polish in the past a lot and get a much richer finish. So nest time the drivers are out it a good rub down (iron wool though not iron Michelle Cheers Chaps

26th November 2007, 01:21 PM	#378
abpea diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Central Illinois	Hey marce, Anymore updates on how the Curvy Chang's are sounding? Thanks - Bruce