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Old 17th June 2007, 07:53 PM   #1
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Default I have a problem !

In Dec/Jan I built a pair of Fostex 208 cabinets for the FE206 drive unit. Lovingly crafted in Birch Ply and lovingly painted and nurtured. Used most days in order to get them fully run in and matured. Then what happens ?

The FE126's that I put into a 108 Sigma with which I was disappointed start to nag at me. Mmm is there a cabinet better matched for them ?

I read the review of the Merrill Zigmahornets (6moons) and saw on a thread that Scottmooose thought the 126 should work in a Ziggie. Cost of ordinary ply £25 or thereabouts, ah well it's got to be worth a punt.

Friday afternoon off to local timber merchants, get the ply cut to size for the sides, fronts and backs, and start to construct. Sunday 6pm all finished.

Only place for them is in the corners of my room behind the 206's. Raised them up a bit so that I could see the drivers. Switch on.

Oh dear............. "and while the King was looking down the Jester stole his party crown" (American Pie - Don McLean).

Young upstarts, piddling little cone area, how do you sound so good !!! Who turned the sub on, answer - no-one, it was definitely off.

These are fantastic. I can forgive the 126's a little roughness as they are not fully run in yet. I see that Dave at Planet 10 has done a natty puzzlecoat (or similar) pattern on his 126's to tame them a bit, (does anyone know the formula for the pattern ?)

If you want a great speaker for very little money, give these a try, they may de-throne your current fave's !
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Old 17th June 2007, 08:17 PM   #2
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In fairness, if your 206 / 208ESigma combination are still in the room you pictured them in elsewhere, I'm not surprised the smaller drivers perform better -that room's too small for large enclosures.

The Zig is a nice box. Should do well in smaller rooms. A pair of Frugal-horns or Ron's A126 should be a good horn-match for your listening space.
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Old 18th June 2007, 03:04 AM   #3
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Default Re: I have a problem !

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(does anyone know the formula for the pattern ?)
It is not a secret.

http://fullrangedriver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=535

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PS: if you have any questions i'll try to anser them....
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Old 18th June 2007, 04:47 AM   #4
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Hmmm... i think Scott's FE126 are currently resting in their boxes...

Maybe a compare is in the winds...

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An interesting idea...
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Old 18th June 2007, 11:48 AM   #6
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congrats puffin

I'm glad they compare well against the 208 cabs, IMO the 208s consume too much of the planet's resources for what they give back in return......

comparison sounds good, go to it Scott..

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Old 18th June 2007, 12:16 PM   #7
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Should be interesting to see how they perform. I think the boxes need a little more volume -I'll check before building. Should be useful for an unobtrusive pair of ambiance extraction speakers.
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Old 18th June 2007, 12:21 PM   #8
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Thanks for all your comments. It loks like it could be a case of cleariing the room to give the Ziggie's some space (boo hoo, weep, sob) sorry, just mourning the possible passing of the 206's !

I got some damar varnish at lunchitme to do the pattern on the 126 cones. Of couirse I could not get hold of any puzzlecoat or it's U.K equivalent. Is there a substitute ? Watered down PVA ?
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Of couirse I could not get hold of any puzzlecoat or it's U.K equivalent. Is there a substitute ? Watered down PVA ?
Mod Podge is a PVA formulation (PuzzleCoat is the brand name of the stuff i started out with -- don't think it has survived thru these last 30 years). I use it because it dries and retains a fair amount of flexibility.

picking the co.uk domains (there might be some .coms in the UK too.

near the bottom....

http://www.doart.co.uk/acatalog/Glue1.html

Mod Podge (PLAID-U1120) is probably the one to use

on sale this week, so all tou UKers get on line or visit your local doart store and scoop some up... a 4 oz bottle should be good for 100 little speakers... if you have some big woofers to do you might want to pop for yjr 8 oz bottle or even the 16 oz. Keep in mind it is useful on FE16x, FE20x too (and it will no doubt find its way onto FF1x5 as well (past experience tells me it won't hurt but you don't teally know until you try it)

Digging into google a bit further

http://www.calicocrafts.co.uk/acatalog/Mod_Podge.html

These guys have the orange lable stuff i use (1/2 way down) ....6211205 / 6211201 / 6211202

checking into the Plaid catalog... the difference netween yellow lable & orange lable, is matte vrs gloss finish -- i prefer the gloss.

Even Amazon sells it...

http://www.amazon.com/Mod-Podge-16-o.../dp/B0001DUCWC


dave

PS: keep bugging me and i'll get an updated tutorial up & release the pattern template (if i can find it)
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Old 19th June 2007, 07:03 AM   #10
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Dave. A million thanks for doing that, it has certainly saved me a lot of time. I am starting to clear my room out as Scott suggested so that I can really hear what the Ziggies can do. I will keep you all posted.

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