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Old 13th June 2007, 11:31 AM   #11
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Harder. With Meliva, you have no angles to cut.
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Old 13th June 2007, 03:24 PM   #12
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FE127 Metronomes ... Are they a simpler build than Mileva?
Probably. Certainly fewer pieces (6 instead of 11 or so).

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Old 13th June 2007, 03:26 PM   #13
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Harder. With Meliva, you have no angles to cut.

Actually there are 2 serious angles to cut but they could be faked. The angles on the Metronome for all intents & purposes can be considered to be 90 degrees.

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Old 13th June 2007, 05:21 PM   #14
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Actually there are 2 serious angles to cut but they could be faked. The angles on the Metronome for all intents & purposes can be considered to be 90 degrees.

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The two internal panels that form the folds are angled at approx 6deg or so. With the panel clamped vertically in a sliding tenoning jig and the blade set at this angle, it's a fairly quick cut to make (10 seconds per piece).
However, even with a 14" main blade, I couldn't get quite enough height of cut before running into the rear registration bracket on the jig, and had to finish the cut by hand, and sand to a flat surface. Well worth the effort though, as the result is substantial glue surface area.

If Dave would mind pulling the original PAWO mules out of storage, we could probably set up a reasonable comparison of the two enclosure designs - they'll probably do more good making music somewhere than sitting beside the hot water tank. (nudge, nudge)


The Mileva is definitely an easier box to build than the PAWO.
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Old 13th June 2007, 05:36 PM   #15
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If Dave would mind pulling the original PAWO mules out of storage, we could probably set up a reasonable comparison of the two enclosure designs - they'll probably do more good making music somewhere than sitting beside the hot water tank. (nudge, nudge)
OK.. a supraBaffle for them to get rid of that tiny bit of honk from the proximity of the back wall? (MDF would be fine for these)

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Old 13th June 2007, 06:01 PM   #16
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OK.. a supraBaffle for them to get rid of that tiny bit of honk from the proximity of the back wall? (MDF would be fine for these)

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Probably to reduce the variables in comparison to the flat baffled Mileva's, a full width front panel would be best. If Tak's not too busy, I could have those ready by the end of the day!
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Old 17th July 2007, 08:37 PM   #18
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Hi!

I am the lucky guy that wound up with the bamboo ply PAWO's that Planet10 is referring to. I have been listening to them for almost a year now and I can categorically that they are the most amazing full-range speakers I have ever heard.

I mostly listen to simple music (jazz, fem vocal, bluegrass, some folk and chamber music) and for this the PAWOs are beyond great. They start to congest a little with heavy rock and I have never tried Rap or HipHop.

Within my musical context, they are brilliant: detailed, coherent, accurate and very, very natural. With a good recording, the speakers dissappear. I have often had visitors exclaim that 'it's like the musician is in the room' - all of the complementary explitives that you read in the hi-fi mags.

I drive my PAWOs with a 300B SET and only mediocre sources - my next step is a real CDP and a much better 'table & cartridge.

Need I say, I'm not complaining?

My two-bits-worth is: if you build them carefully, and purchase a set of the modified FR-127e' s from Planet10, they will be a delight to hear and a pleasure to own.

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Are you running any sort of sub with the PAWOs? I'm wondering if that would help with 'heavy rock'.

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Are you running any sort of sub with the PAWOs? I'm wondering if that would help with 'heavy rock'.
I have just last month started using a subwoofer with them - I mostly listen to Jazz and Folk, so the absence of Bass has not been a big deal to me.

However I just had a chance to try a Velodyne ULD12 and it definately adds definition and context to the sound, so will probably keep it.

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I have just last month started using a subwoofer with them - I mostly listen to Jazz and Folk, so the absence of Bass has not been a big deal to me.

However I just had a chance to try a Velodyne ULD12 and it definately adds definition and context to the sound, so will probably keep it.

Jess
Gee, do you mind digging out some punk / rock / rap in the interests of scientific inquiry?



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