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Old 5th December 2002, 01:30 AM   #1
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Default You all are better on without me

All,

I resign as moderator right now. Do i stick to the power? Don't think so.
From what i read in the conspiracy thread, there is only one thing for me to
do: to leave.

Anything left to say ? I think not. I doubt it would be believed.
No matter what i say, the dirt will stick.
I have become a load for the forum. You all are better on without me.

Bye
(dice45)
 
Old 5th December 2002, 02:48 AM   #2
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Dice45,

I for one don’t want to see you go, for the same reasons that I believe the whole Frank incident should be rescinded, and for the same reasons that I feel Gray should come back, and that Fred should stop being a “Stepford” Fred . You are all good for the forum, and we all learn from each of you. Granted, I wouldn’t necessarily wish to see you in the moderator’s position again, but that’s not a bad thing. There are very few around here that I feel should be moderators, but that’s my opinion. I’m sure that there are those that disagree with me about this and everything else I’m saying. That’s alright too; everyone should have their own mind about things. It’s what drives this forum, the differences. If everyone thought the same and agreed on everything, Jason could just host an Audio Library web site that collected “words of audio wisdom” from the gurus.

So you stick around and get in a tiff now and again. Maybe you get away with it calling someone and ***, or maybe not. So what, you spend a week or two in the Bin and get a few things done around the house.

So no, we are not better on without you, we are better on with you.

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Old 5th December 2002, 02:59 AM   #3
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Thanks for your thoughts Rodd.

Dice45 has asked that he be allowed to leave quietly and that we would not discuss his leaving in public.

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Old 5th December 2002, 11:30 AM   #4
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Default Let's talk about Dice45 leaving

Sorry to hear you are leaving Dice45. As for you not wanting us to talk about it, that's a little too much to ask.
If leaving in anonymity was your desire why posting it? It's a little bit like announcing one's suicide and expect people to do or say nothing about it.
Are we going to be better off without you? I don't know. I won't rush to any conclusions.
That brings me to the point here: quick, not so well thought out decisions have been IMO a problem on the part of moderators in the past, even more so a complete inability to forsee negative impact of these decision and the inability to apologize for them in the public forum to the entire members when such bad decisions have been reversed.
Being a Moderator must be very hard, too many hours on the computer too much typing, and too much surfing. I don't envy the job and I am glad someone's doing it. Under this much pressure, mistakes are made tempers run hot and sight is lost. This is probably what happened with the whole Degrove affair.
I said outrageous things in the past on this forum, made a complete *** out of myself and apologized for it.
I offered an explanation and a sincere apology, even when I thought I was right, I tried to learn from my mistakes and move on. It is about all one can do. Some people will accept the apology, others won't, that's just life.
The other approach, the hard *** one, is to make a well though out decision, may take weeks to make, or say what's on your mind, stick to it, and be ready to defend your decision or statement because it's a good decision or statement, you made it.
In my experience, middle-of-the-way approaches simply don't work.
So it would be fairly easy to fix things up and get back to business.
Good luck to you Dice45.

and sorry for the spiel!
 
Old 5th December 2002, 11:57 AM   #5
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I am VERY sorry Bernhard has left. Even though I think it was wise to quit the moderating business. It obviously took all the fun out of DIY Audio for him. I hope he will come back and make some enthusiastic on-topic posts again. Just like the good old days.
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Old 5th December 2002, 12:14 PM   #6
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I am very sorry to hear Dice45 go too, same as Grey, same as Geoff, same as...... I personally miss all you folks.

How come Nelson Pass is still around? May be we all should learn from him too, not only just audio

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Old 5th December 2002, 12:19 PM   #7
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The S/N is reggetably getting awfully big on this forum!!!! Let's get on with DIY instead of what the other is saying!
 
Old 5th December 2002, 12:46 PM   #8
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Quote:
Originally posted by grataku
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That brings me to the point here: quick, not so well thought out decisions have been IMO a problem on the part of moderators in the past, even more so a complete inability to forsee negative impact of these decision and the inability to apologize for them in the public forum to the entire members when such bad decisions have been reversed.
.......
So it would be fairly easy to fix things up and get back to business.
<b>Exactly</b>
An apology should be made, and Frank's ban lifted immediately.

It's the reasonable, honourable and courageous thing to do.
 
Old 5th December 2002, 12:51 PM   #9
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I think everyone has the right to a time determined punishment. I think that Frank may have had a filthy mouth but I'm sure he can improve himself. Let him stand in the "skamvrån" for a month or so. Compare Fred/Harry! Everyone can improve.
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Old 5th December 2002, 01:01 PM   #10
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Default The S/N is reggetably getting awfully big on this forum

Umm..... I think you mean small. Less signal divided by more noise is smaller not bigger.
 

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