You all are better on without me / Let's talk about Dice45 leaving

[peterr]

I think what is more important is what is better for Bernhard. He has drawn a lot off criticism, some deserved most not however. his only real sin was excessive passion for his moderation duty and the desire to see civil discourse on the forum. I don't blame him for wanting a break from being a lightning rod for criticism.

Right.

Now I go and do some soldering. It must be healthier than all this.

[chris ma]

I think Everthing else include noise. (IMHO)

Common folks, let it all out , clear your chest, but no swearing please, imagine all governments all over the world have swearing in their daily debat. I know some actually throw punches..
Imagine Bush saying in congress " I want to shove a nuke up Sad@3"^'s #$@ and kill all %**&ing C@#%s, and any of those european #!^oles that do not agreed with me are ~!#ing wa&$k#s!!' How the TV and Radio can report the $+*&ing c#@*

Mr. president, How the beep are you? Oh beep, I beep forgot that he is such a beep beep .....beep..

May be we will be beep ok before beep X-mas and back to beep normal.

beep
Chris

[UrSv]

The suggestion from the Dutch:

Midvinternattens köld är hård,
stjärnorna gnistra och glimma
Alla sova i enslig gård
djupt under midnattstimma
Månen vandrar sin tysta ban,
snön lyser vit på fur och gran,
snön lyser vit på baken
Endast tomten är naken

/UrSv

[jean-paul]

Hello Ststone,

I can imagine your nostalgic feelings being away. There is a special atmosphere around here these days as you know.Children are tense because they know they are getting presents.Parents ask themselves if they have prepared everything well.

But I think this is the ultimate example of threadjacking !
Sinterklaas will take you and me to Spain I guess for not obeying the forums rules.

[jean-paul]

Midvinternattens köld är hård,
stjärnorna gnistra och glimma
Alla sova i enslig gård
djupt under midnattstimma
Månen vandrar sin tysta ban,
snön lyser vit på fur och gran,
snön lyser vit på baken
Endast tomten är naken

Translation please !

[ststone]

line 1. Mid-Winter Nights cold and hard
Viktor Rydberg : Tomten

In nordic folklore, a tomte was a kind of - not always benevolent - vätte (spirit or minor deity) connected to a farmstead.
Rydberg's immensly popular poem, first published in 1881, transformed him into a combination of fatherly guardian and philosopher. Combined with the gift-giving Julvätte ("Christmas vätte") of Rydberg's earlier story Little Vigg - and, of course, with foreign influences - he then evolved into the modern Jultomte, local version of Santa Claus.

The young artist Jenny Nyström (1854-1946) illustrated both the poem and the story - and thus embarked on a 60-year career devoted to creating the visual image of the Swedish christmas.

In 1960 the poem, suitably adapted by Astrid Lindgren, was made into a children's book with new illustrations by Harald Wiberg. In this form it had - and still has - considerable success on the international market.

[halojoy]

Originally posted by jean-paul
Midvinternattens köld är hård,
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Translation please !

This site can translate.
do not forget to use special keyboards commands
for å, ä, ö (aa, ae, oe)

http://www-lexikon.nada.kth.se/skolverket/swe-eng.shtml

I am afraid this national poem is slighly paraphrased (twisted)

midvinternattens köld är hård
mid winter night's cold is hard (tough)

I am afraid you have to have winternights like the swedish or canadian, to get the feel of it

[ststone]

Hard is the cold of Midwinter's
night,
stars sparkle and gleam.

In the lonely town at this midnight hour, all are sleeping.

Moon wanders its silent way,
snow lights white on fir and spruce,
snow lights white on roofs.

Only tomten is awake



Sinterklaas is jarig
Zet je schoentje klaar

[halojoy]

oude wijn in nieuwe zakken

could this be
old wine in new bottles

that is my association

like
there is nothing new under the sun
although it might appear like new

[ststone]

To an un-trained eye this would be correct.
The direct translation does not always capture the emotion.

Your last edit is close to the reality.
I must say you are good.