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Hi Guys...
I've just been hit with a trademark infrindgement letter stating I can't use the word Teflon on my website.(Wire) They tell me since I'm not buying from them and do not have a license they have asked me to remove the name from my website. The wire is a good seller for me and my prices are lower than anyone, so I'm kind of wondering if there's any other key words or idea's on how I can promote this without the word being used. I've asked to get a license or if I use the word and put that R under the name or use a phase to state that the trademark is there's but to no avail This along with the RoHs stuffis making it very hard to stay in business... Any Idea's Steve @ Apex Jr. |
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: ancient Batsch , behind Iron Curtain
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If I remember correctly-they made Teflon for Space Shuttle?
you can use that link....'special plastic thingie for eggs baking and Space Shuttle"
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Tetsujin
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"PTFE" is the generic term.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Vancouver, WA
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Steve--
Is DuPont the manufacturer of the coating that's on your wire? If not, I can understand their position. It dilutes their trademark to have any type of polymer fluorocarbon referred to as Teflon. (see Xerox, Kleenex, etc.) I know it's not perfect, but what about using the generic term for teflon, PTFE? And referring to it on your webside as "PTFE Silver Plated Copper Wire" instead of "Teflon Silver Plated Copper Wire". Then have the PTFE part be a symlink to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PTFE At least it's a start. --Greg EDIT: Ack...Sy beat me to it. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Leeuwarden
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Teflon is the brand name of PTFE by DuPont...
But not many people search on PTFE... |
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What if you described it as "PTFE Silver Plated Copper Wire" and had a note that read "Teflon(R) is Dupont's Registered Trademark for PTFE - the wire I sell does NOT use Dupont's Teflon(R)". Don't see how the lawyers could argue against that, but anyone Googling "teflon wire" should get your site.
While I sympathize to a reasonably large extent with attempts to protect intellectual property - since I sometimes create it - I also object to the imperialism of lawyers who are trying to colonize the language and fence it off from us aboriginal users :-). |
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Near London. UK
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Thanks Guys....
You have given me a good idea and will implement it with the link, great idea..... PTFE 5 heads are better than 1 Thanks for the help Steve @ Apex Jr. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The Wilds Of Canada
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Look at the date of the original trademark and patent registration. It may have run it's course. At that point....pardon my legal ignorance..but it may be a moot issue.
Also, the generic thingie. Kleenex, ski-doo, Xerox, etc. Teflon is likely now generic. Like 'Cola'. Dupont is simply being ..uh..***. I WANT my product to become part of the backdrop of life. It's like a licence to print money. Wait.... the Fed does that already. Oh, yes. If you know the original maufacturer of the wire you are selling, look up if it is an actual Teflon brand based Dielectric. If it is, then you have the right to call it what it is. Then you can grab the Dupont Lawyer by his $3 tie, haul him arcoss his desk,and tell him to take a long hard suck on your backside.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Phoenix, Az.
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There is an "old" search engine trick to get people searching for your competitors to see a link to your site. Lets say you are McDonalds. You put "Burger King" in the key words list on your site so that any time someone searches for "Burger King", they see your site, along with all the Burger King sites.
You can do the same with the phrase "teflon wire". Put it in the key words for your PTFE coated wire page. When someone searches for "teflon wire" they will still see your page even though the word does not appear anywhere on the visible page. I_F |
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