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Old 1st June 2006, 06:59 PM   #1
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This is not a hobby for John... he is entitled to keep his beans in his jar.

 
Old 1st June 2006, 07:06 PM   #2
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poobah This is not a hobby for John... he is entitled to keep his beans in his jar.
We are not asking for his beans, only want to learn some better cooking. That's quite a different ballgame.
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Old 1st June 2006, 07:13 PM   #3
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We are not asking for his beans, only want to learn some better cooking.
Hmmm, that too is his trade secret.

He is a chef, it's John's style. Very general things can be taken from it, but not too close. Mind you, we would all like to learn and take from it what suits us I guess.

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Courage: Make your own soup! Surprise me!
 
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Courage, show some courage!
 
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john curl: Courage: Make your own soup! Surprise me!
Well actually you may not like my soup, because I'm a vegetarian.
On the other hand most of us are waiting for you to surprise us for a change
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Old 2nd June 2006, 02:29 AM   #7
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But Courage,

Why would John want to give his circuits away? Even a good chef only does it in a saleable form - a TV program, or a cookbook! Does a Doctor reveal precisely how he arrives at a treatment regime? A gifted architect his plans? A photographer his technical tips?

What obligation does anyone earning a living from this game have to share the innermost secrets? Why is DIY so different in its expectation to say the building trade, where expertise is routinely paid for? Just because so many like Pavel and Nelson are prepared to give away their valuable insights, what right have we to expect this from all audio designers?

John sells his expertise and attempts to maximise the return, that's his survival. We are lucky to have a few hints from him, not that I necessarily put him on a pedestal. Selling for no money is absurd in this context....... the fact that Nelson, for example, does this is often because his principle IP is patented, and he has the resources to enforce the patents by litigation. For non-commercial purposes, and that's a personal love of his, he is prepared to share. We are lucky; this is a bonus, but it should never be an expectation.

Could it be that you are behaving like a guest at a cocktail party who finds a Doctor and attempts to wheedle a diagnosis of his ailments at no cost?

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Old 2nd June 2006, 02:33 AM   #8
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That is the best... ever!

 
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It is the doctors who make the big money restoring the health of others, who buy my actual CTC product. I can't charge like they can. If I were at a party, and a doctor, I would give it away for free. Later, in the hospital, I could make up for my losses.
 
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Doctors only make more money because they control a government sanctified monopoly.

Most of them are less than smart... 200 years ago engineers were working on steam engines... doctors were still "bleeding" people.

Every damn thing they do is based on empirical evidence... chicken guano.

It's BS, and it will continue, and be subsidized, as long as we chose to quash Darwin at every turn.





 

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