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Old 17th November 2002, 10:38 AM   #1
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Default Mark Levinson Rosette & Korsun U2 confirmed the same

I've just finished updating my website.

It has been confirmed that both integraged amps are the same. Please visit the link below for details.

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Old 17th November 2002, 02:03 PM   #3
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Old 30th October 2003, 06:30 PM   #4
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So... Can we buy these Korsun amps in the US anywhere?
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Paul,

I've never seen the Korsun line of amps sold in the US. There was at one time say 3 years ago an online shop in Canada (near Toronto) that was selling them but wanted a hefty profit.

Eitherway, I don't see anything special about these amps. It does serve as a great conversational piece among friends.

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I was just curious. I am addicted to gainclones anyways.

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Old 30th October 2003, 09:33 PM   #7
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Default Re: Mark Levinson Rosette & Korsun U2 confirmed the same

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I've just finished updating my website.

It has been confirmed that both integraged amps are the same. Please visit the link below for details.

http://www.geocities.com/super_bq/HiFi.html

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Howdy, BQ!

Can't get to the website right now so don't know what the new news is.

How does it square with the claims made by Levinson in a response to a HFN review where he writes:

The Red Rose Rosette 1 looks similar to a unit made for the PRC [Chinese] market by the company which manufacturers the Rosette for us. This is because I opted to use existing tooling which I found attractive and distinctive, and which also saved time and money. There is a huge sonic difference between the RRM [Red Rose] unit and the low cost PRC amplifier due to engineering refinements which include more sophisticated topology, power supply design and components, the use of active regulated power supplies, parts selection, and other design differences.

In addition to the sonic differences, one can see that completely different PCBs exist in the RRM unit which carry different circuits and parts. All RRM units include technology developed in Seattle by the Red Rose team headed by Victor Tiscareno, SVP Engineering RRM.

Our technology is not to be found in any non-RRM units. Some people are suggesting that RRM is simply selling the same products as the PRC unit, for a lot more money. The rumors seem to have been started by a former employee of mine who saw an opportunity to create controversy and attack RRM based on nothing more than speculation. Anyone can see and hear the difference between the Rosette 1 and the PRC units. One is designed to be a good low cost amp while the Rosette 1 competes with high-end products in the $2k-10k range.

Some dealers in China are telling people that their amps are the same as RRM's. This is not true. There are huge differences in sonic quality, reliability, and stability. Customers beware.


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Old 30th October 2003, 10:20 PM   #8
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Mark Levinson was and is a Master in the Art of marketing.
But now he and his "technical director" Victor Tiscareno have pushed it a bit too far: I dont see any difference between the Korsun Amp and the Rosette.
And the RedRose Passion Integrated Amp for 4100Euro is another "steal":
Looking inside (ImageHIFI#50) you find the typical chinese produced (no offence) steel chassis with solid but cheaply constructed internals, basic parts quality, cheapest cables, etc. All that behind a very thick and classy looking alminium front plate. A NAD or a ROTEL looks better inside. Emperors new dress... 410Euro yes, but 4100Euro?

Klaus / hates hifi charlatans

ps: This probably has happened many times before with different brands. Reading ML's explanation I can't help but remember hearing those or similar words several times in the last 20years (all those "...but...more sophisticateted topology" technical babble&lies).
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Ok, finally got through to the website. Thought there was gonna be something NEW.

Guess the only thing new is BQ's registration here. Welcome aboard, BQ! Link's here somewhere, but I keep forgetting what he's using for a moniker.

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