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Old 18th December 2012, 06:25 AM   #61
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I have dealt with Bybee's devices for a decade.

I have given my customers a money back guarantee, and over the decade only one customer ever asked for his money back and that was because he purchased a CD player off Audiogon and wasn't happy with it. Installing the Bybees helped but not enough to where he wanted to retain the unit and he places up for sale after I removed the Bybees').

In experimenting with the purifiers, many of my observations became incorporated into the Bybee web site. Bybee is very reluctant to say exactly what the purifiers do and inept placement will probably not do anything for the sound, let alone have a positive impact.

I find the best starting point is in a solid state power supply between the bridge rectifier and the transformer outputs. Everything else is a band aid at best, and especially so since most transducers have absolutely horrible time and phase relationships between their drivers ( all you need do is to examine Stereophile magazines speaker impulse test; then compare it to something like the Vandersteens or, even better, a full range pure electrostatic). The typical transducer will yield some positives but some negatives and the general impression will be a wash.
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Old 18th December 2012, 09:46 AM   #62
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Yawn, we have had many threads discussing these parts and a listening test carried out by some very long time members...not a lot apart from mumbo jumbo marketing and hints at resiricted military work. But not bad profit for selling a resistor wrapped in shrink wrap wot
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Old 18th December 2012, 10:43 AM   #63
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Default re Bybee

You are welcome to your opinion. Might I ask if you have actual first hand experience or are your opinions simply based on reading....

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Old 18th December 2012, 10:55 AM   #64
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Stu, perhaps if you want to promote stuff you sell, you might do it in the Vendors' forum?
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Old 18th December 2012, 10:58 AM   #65
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Originally Posted by unclestu View Post
...Bybee is very reluctant to say exactly what the purifiers do...
Well that speaks for itself.
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Old 18th December 2012, 11:18 AM   #66
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I thought he said a lot about what they allegedly do, but it all seemed to be complete nonsense (to anyone who knows some physics/chemistry) yet strangely plausible (to anyone who knows no physics/chemistry yet has heard of some of the words).

Anyone who spends serious money on an audio 'enhancement' based on classified research is unlikely to complain. Expectation bias will make it likely that an 'improvement' will be 'heard'. Even those who hear nothing are unlikely to want to admit that their ears/system/room lack the required 'discrimination'. Very few gizmos are sold with the blurb saying "If you hear no improvement than that means that your system is so good it needs no improvement".

My guess is that the Bybee acts as a wideband lossy RF absorber. A ferrite bead would be simpler and cheaper.
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Old 18th December 2012, 12:21 PM   #67
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That was brave of you, unclestu, but this is not the best forum to tell anybody about Bybee devices, even your own experience.
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Old 18th December 2012, 12:59 PM   #68
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Yeah, you might try
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Old 19th December 2012, 08:28 AM   #69
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Unclestu, physics, electronics common sense, and the fact that most of the marketing is pure undiluted extract du snake, oh and a dislike for baltant product promotion...
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