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Old 7th February 2006, 03:12 PM   #1
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Default Pentium -vs- AMD Athlon

What are your thoughts in regards to the best processor for audio only purposes?
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Old 7th February 2006, 03:23 PM   #2
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As sound processing is done on the soundcard I can't see how any difference is possible. Unless one processor has much worse EMI which interferes with the analogue input.
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Old 7th February 2006, 03:26 PM   #3
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I guess then the question would be motherboard / soundcard / power supply. I agree the processor brand should not affect things too much.

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Old 7th February 2006, 03:38 PM   #4
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If you only want to record and play audio, one of the fanless VIA boards would be ideal. The desktop cpus run real hot these days, Intel are the worst offenders at about 100W, needing a serious fan.
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Default It's a system thing

The question is, what are you doing with the audio?

Are you using your PC as a production station with something like Pro-Tools, Cubase, Reason, or something else that plays back and mixes multiple tracks with multiple effects?

Are you using your PC as a home media center that will be the signal source for your main speakers?

Are you using your PC as a hard-disk recorder for music?

For an audio workstation, I feel that it is important to have multiple hard disks on seperate IDE channels. It's probably worthwhile to have a small but fast "scratch" disk, and in fact many of these programs ask for you to specify a scratch disk that is seperate from the main system disk.

For a home media/theater center, thermal considerations are a big deal. With an audio workstation you might be able to put the noisy PC into a cabinet or ventilated isolation box, but you're probably not so lucky in your home listening environment. This means that power consumption is critical. For high performance, Athlon 64 seems to be winning right now. It's more expensive, but a Pentium M is also a good solution. Pentium M has only modest processing performance, but it's a laptop chip so it really sips power.

As a hard disk recorder, you want a ton of RAM and a processor setup that is good for multitasking. Even moreso, you'll need a hard disk setup that is supportive of the task at hand. This might mean using a lot of different hard drives.

For any of these tasks, the Athlon 64 X2 series seems like a good contendor, since they have good performance in multitasking, good access to RAM, and low power consumption.

As a final word- people have been happily doing all kinds of audio things on PCs for (practically) the last decade. For most of the applications I listed here, the overall system configuration is much more likely to be the limiting factor than the processor.
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Sorry for such an open question.

I'm using it for production purposes. Basically, using Ableton Live,
and, Wavelab (Cubase) for audio editing. I will need to use two
sound cads, and, all .wav files too.

I'll also use it for hard disk recording as well. I'm pretty sure 3 Ghz
will do the job. I'm just noty sure if Athlon or Pentium would be best.

This computer won't be used for the internet, or word processing.
So, I'll just dump bundled software, and, just install Abeton Live,
and Wavelab.

So Athlon 64 X2 will handle this, no problem?
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Old 7th February 2006, 04:59 PM   #7
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Athlon X2 would be my pick but alot of attention will have to be paid to memory and disk subsystems.

The new Intel "core" architecture (essentially and updated and optimised pentium 3) is going to be very interesting when the dual core cpu's with HT and virtualisation appear at the end of this year and they even run very cool. AMD is going to have to work very hard to better this.
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Old 7th February 2006, 05:07 PM   #8
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generally i would say the amd chips are better. But for video work pentium are suposedly best. You want sata hard disks rather than ide i would say. Memory- you want 2gb if you can afford it, latency shouldnt be important but cheapo memory can be unreliable.
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!!!!!and whatever you do dont buy from pc world!!!!! I take it from saying about bundled software your after a ready made pc? I would recomnd you build it yourself. Better value for money and you get to choose the exact parts you want, instead of buying and having to upgrade it straight away.
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Many real world comparrisons can be found on sites like http://www.anandtech.com/ , my vote personaly goes for AMD, in the real world it smokes an Intel of equal cost by miles, and in the few tests it does lag, its only marginal.

If you do decide to go AMD, you may want to wait for the AM2 chips, which are due for release shortly, or you will find yourself stuck with a lot of obsolete hardware at your next upgrade.

I would not get the X2 for this, unless your software is specificaly tailored for it... Get the fastest single core processor you can find rather...
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