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Old 19th January 2006, 05:32 AM   #21
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when the copper runs out, we'll still have tin and silber

The problem with silber wire is its tendancy toward sibilance. Now, silver wire on the other hand...

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Old 19th January 2006, 05:34 AM   #22
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What we really need to fear the announcement that we are using up all the silicon.
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Old 19th January 2006, 06:25 AM   #23
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Well, if we run out of copper for wire, we can still use aluminum. The used aluminum in the past, in WWII I believe when copper was in short supply.

Of course, of some 47 trailers they used aluminum wiring in, 45 or so caught fire, but I'm sure we can work the bugs out eventually. Be sure to have fire extinguishers handy in each room.
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Old 19th January 2006, 06:33 AM   #24
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And what when we run out of ones and zeroes?

I hope you all don't just routinely delete files, but first print them out and throw in the recycling bin.
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Old 19th January 2006, 06:41 AM   #25
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Default oil shortage, show me the money

To just say "we are running out of oil" is to not understand the question.

It all depends how much your willing to pay for it!

Double the price per barrel and those difficult to get at, therefore expensive reserves are now would drilling.

Show me your money people!!!

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Old 19th January 2006, 06:50 AM   #26
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And what when we run out of ones and zeroes?

I hope you all don't just routinely delete files, but first print them out and throw in the recycling bin.
I suppose that would make Windows more "eco-friendly" than Mac as it uses a recycle bin instead of a trash can.

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Old 19th January 2006, 07:36 AM   #27
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There is a critical world wide shortage of both surplus and abundance!!

I'm more worried about aluminium.
Copper is often used simply because it is easier to join.

We are using copper for less and less things

Copper plumbing is being replaced with Plastic alternatives.

Aluminium is used for high tension wires and bulk power conduction around cities.

Any decent loudspeaker also uses copper plated aluminium conductors.

The advent of the SMPS has reduced demand for both iron and copper in electronic power supplies
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diamond will replace copper for much of its purposes
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Old 19th January 2006, 08:35 AM   #29
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WW2 alone can probably account for the loss of perhaps a quarter of the available global copper reserve now at the bottom of the oceans from conflict sunk shipping, and then dumping most of the electronic war surplus into the oceans after the war as there was too much of it to store, or too little collective wisdom to store it. It likely won't be available for use again until our planet and solar system are recycled in a future supernova.
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Let's not even mention who is trying to suppress THAT sort of thing...
I'll mention it- the laws of thermodynamics. "Water fuels" are an old, old scam. The fundamental problem is that the O-H bonds in water are very, very stable. There is a high barrier to breaking them which is not even close to made up for when one forms H-H and O-O bonds. Even miracle non-existent catalysis won't help you here.
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