Only two things are infinite, ...

Rodeodave · 8th December 2005, 05:56 PM

...the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. A.E.

Come on, how stupid is that C37-laquer? Can you blieve that...

stuff like that just makes me wanna go

sh!17|_|(#in9 do|\|#³'/r/\4!|\|9 sh!1€a1er5

Tweeker · 8th December 2005, 06:39 PM

It might be outrageously priced, but at least in some applications it actually does something. Whether it does anything more than something you can buy at the hardware store for $5 a litre is another matter.

pinkmouse · 8th December 2005, 06:44 PM

Let's make it three things.

The infinite number of times people start new threads about C37...

Rodeodave · 8th December 2005, 07:29 PM

Well, I've searched and I couldn't find one (a thread...). Although I remember that there was something mentioned in the Fullrange-Section (laquer being put on membranes and stuff).
And as the bullfunky being kind of new to me I didn't quite hesitate to start a new thread.

btw, anybody noticed the "Klien Horn" ?

lohk · 8th December 2005, 09:21 PM

Ennemoser is or was a good and talented violin maker, but he always into experimenting - and I suppose he now earns much more money by selling C37.
I also think treating membrans etc. (or even PCBs) is BS but the stuff is definitely good for wood

(it is made out expensive ingredients, that is for sure, and selling prices, well thats a completely different subject)

Nordic · 9th December 2005, 01:12 PM

Never hear of this stuff before, but googled and read Rod Elliot's take on it... lol he is not someone to sell snakeoil to it seems.

http://sound.westhost.com/madashell9.htm

It makes no sense to me... the only reason why a varnish would develop in ye old times is, because it cures hard, is durable, is reasonable cheap to manufacture.. which in turn extended the life of articles, also instruments tend to be used close to the body, so its a good way of keeping splinters out. Sure untreated wood and varnished wood in a violen would sound diffirent as the wood absorbs the oil or varnish, and thus changes in density... but come on, takeing it further than that is quite mad...

On a related theme, I studied clasical guitar at school, and for some reason a nylon guitar sounds absolutely dead to me on rainy overcast days, whereass it has a crispness on hot sunny days, my teacher claimed never to hear this... maybe one of you has, or has an explanation... I'm 100% sure I could hear it today even if I tried... (haven't played in years)

qoute: rod elliot "Maybe we should start making hi-fi equipment from human bones and tissue, and cut out the middle man "

8th December 2005, 05:56 PM	#1
Rodeodave diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: in the alps Blog Entries: 1	Only two things are infinite, ... ...the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. A.E. Come on, how stupid is that C37-laquer? Can you blieve that... stuff like that just makes me wanna go sh!17\|_\|(#in9 do\|\\|#³'/r/\4!\|\\|9 sh!1€a1er5 __________________ Gravity - Making the G since 13.7 billion B.C.

8th December 2005, 06:39 PM	#2
Tweeker diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio	It might be outrageously priced, but at least in some applications it actually does something. Whether it does anything more than something you can buy at the hardware store for $5 a litre is another matter. __________________ Be sure your foil hat has a good low impedance ground.

8th December 2005, 06:44 PM	#3
pinkmouse diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chatham, England	Let's make it three things. The infinite number of times people start new threads about C37... __________________ Al I conceive of nothing, in religion, science or philosophy, that is more than the proper thing to wear, for a while. Charles Fort

8th December 2005, 07:29 PM	#4
Rodeodave diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: in the alps Blog Entries: 1	Well, I've searched and I couldn't find one (a thread...). Although I remember that there was something mentioned in the Fullrange-Section (laquer being put on membranes and stuff). And as the bullfunky being kind of new to me I didn't quite hesitate to start a new thread. btw, anybody noticed the "Klien Horn" ? __________________ Gravity - Making the G since 13.7 billion B.C.

8th December 2005, 09:21 PM	#5
lohk diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Austria, near Linz	Ennemoser is or was a good and talented violin maker, but he always into experimenting - and I suppose he now earns much more money by selling C37. I also think treating membrans etc. (or even PCBs) is BS but the stuff is definitely good for wood (it is made out expensive ingredients, that is for sure, and selling prices, well thats a completely different subject) __________________ /alohka/


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9th December 2005, 01:12 PM	#6
Nordic diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2005	Never hear of this stuff before, but googled and read Rod Elliot's take on it... lol he is not someone to sell snakeoil to it seems. http://sound.westhost.com/madashell9.htm It makes no sense to me... the only reason why a varnish would develop in ye old times is, because it cures hard, is durable, is reasonable cheap to manufacture.. which in turn extended the life of articles, also instruments tend to be used close to the body, so its a good way of keeping splinters out. Sure untreated wood and varnished wood in a violen would sound diffirent as the wood absorbs the oil or varnish, and thus changes in density... but come on, takeing it further than that is quite mad... On a related theme, I studied clasical guitar at school, and for some reason a nylon guitar sounds absolutely dead to me on rainy overcast days, whereass it has a crispness on hot sunny days, my teacher claimed never to hear this... maybe one of you has, or has an explanation... I'm 100% sure I could hear it today even if I tried... (haven't played in years) qoute: rod elliot "Maybe we should start making hi-fi equipment from human bones and tissue, and cut out the middle man "

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