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Old 2nd October 2002, 09:01 PM   #1
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Thumbs down If you don't think trolling is destructive

Check out what is happening to newcomers in introductions.

2 choices here.

1. it's the troll

2 newcomers are being harassed as a result of the troll.

Either way - not productive - not humorous - destructive to the site. Which is what the troll wants and why the troll has been keeping it alive after he was banned.



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Old 2nd October 2002, 09:46 PM   #2
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Old 2nd October 2002, 09:54 PM   #3
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the link says it better than I


http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm


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Old 2nd October 2002, 09:55 PM   #4
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A few comments here...

These are generalized statements not aimed at any single individual.

I have been a quiet member of this forum for several months. I have been a lurker here for probably a year longer than I have been a member. I like this forum. I occasionally find information that interests me and is beneficial to projects in which I am involved. I have rarely applied any personal feelings to my posts--this case is an exception.

I am sure that there are several camps on this issue, those that find this entire situation humorous (as I DID), those that are neutral, and those that have some stake in the outcome of this kangaroo court of public opinion.

There are two ways to address this issue. The first is to publicize the issue. Totally. Give the forum members a concise compilation of all the information on which the moderators based their decisions, let the forum debate the issue--as seems to be on going, form a general opinion for the issue and then follow it. The second and the way I would prefer to see it handled is to drop the somewhat asinine and contemptuous postings that continue to undermine the foundations of the forum. If this is the worst of your "relationship" worries than I applaud your life and wish that I had it. But if this is the only beef you have, then you don't have any. This is TRIVIAL. Let's treat it as such.

How ironic it is that to voice my opinion on the matter, I must contribute to the problem. Sorry for the long rant.

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Old 3rd October 2002, 12:03 AM   #5
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I wouldn't worry about it too much. I think the commotion will die down over the next week. Embers stay after the fire has been extinguished but eventually, they too die out.

This has happened a few times. Big bang. Few days of dancing around the fire. Everyone gets bored and goes back to business as usual. If you don't want to watch the dancing then just look elsewhere for a couple of days.

IMHO the most productive thing to do is be yourself, and interpret what people are saying the most positive way you can.
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Old 3rd October 2002, 12:12 AM   #6
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Old 3rd October 2002, 12:18 AM   #7
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Jason,

Why not include the URL (or Internet address if URL is not the correct term) under the name of every poster? The Mad board did this after the trolls, multi-aliased, and even people posting under other peoples names got so bad that the quality of the discussions dropped significantly. This immediately stopped almost all of the foolishness and cut down the flaming and fighting. Suddenly trolls could not hide and were accountable for their postings. Cleaned up the forum almost completely.

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Old 3rd October 2002, 01:47 AM   #8
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IP's are now visible to the public/private investigation army. Perhaps an eyesore but perhaps another needed step towards quality.

As jocko said in another thread: it's time to lighten up
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Old 3rd October 2002, 03:47 AM   #9
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IP's are now visible to the public/private investigation army. Perhaps an eyesore but perhaps another needed step towards quality.
That helps as long as people realize that most IPs are dynamically assigned such that two completely different individuals may be assigned the same IP at different times.

I mention this because I've seen completely innocent users attacked my lynch mobs simply because they happened to have the bad luck of sharing the same service provider with some troll.

I have a static IP however so if you ever see any crap from 203.162.100.130, you can safely string me up without worrying about innocent victims.

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Originally posted by Ken L
the link says it better than I
http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm
This article was very good in describing the troll thing.
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